(August 12, 2018 at 5:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:Genesis (the beginning) is simply recounting the history of mankind.

It's not, you know.

Boru

Funny, you guys were in denial when I said the ancients were technologically advanced, turns out I was right.

As for the tower of Babel.


https://www.archaeology.wiki/blog/2011/1...ollection/

Quote:A team of scholars has discovered what might be the oldest representation of the Tower of Babel of Biblical fame, they report in a newly published book.
Carved on a black stone, which has already been dubbed the Tower of Babel stele, the inscription dates to 604-562 BCE.

Quote:The Tower of Babel stele stands out as one of “the stars in the firmament of the book,” wrote Andrew George, a professor of Babylonian at the University of London and editor of the book. The spectacular stone monument clearly shows the Tower and King Nebuchadnezzar II, who ruled Babylon some 2,500 years ago.

Quote:The inscription also depicts the Tower of Babel from a front view, “clearly showing the relative proportions of the 7 steps including the temple on the top,” the Schøyen Collection stated.
The stele even features a line drawing of the ground plan of the temple, revealing both the outer walls and the inner arrangement of rooms.
Moreover, captions clearly identify the tower as the “great ziggurat of Babylon.”

Quote:“Here we have for the first time an illustration contemporary with Nebuchadnezzar II’s restoring and enlargement of the Tower of Babel, and with a caption making the identity absolutely sure,” the Schøyen Collection stated on its website

(August 12, 2018 at 8:24 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 12, 2018 at 5:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It's not, you know.

Boru

Funny, you guys were in denial when I said the ancients were technologically advanced, turns out I was right.

As for the tower of Babel.


https://www.archaeology.wiki/blog/2011/1...ollection/

Quote:A team of scholars has discovered what might be the oldest representation of the Tower of Babel of Biblical fame, they report in a newly published book.
Carved on a black stone, which has already been dubbed the Tower of Babel stele, the inscription dates to 604-562 BCE.

Quote:The Tower of Babel stele stands out as one of “the stars in the firmament of the book,” wrote Andrew George, a professor of Babylonian at the University of London and editor of the book. The spectacular stone monument clearly shows the Tower and King Nebuchadnezzar II, who ruled Babylon some 2,500 years ago.

Quote:The inscription also depicts the Tower of Babel from a front view, “clearly showing the relative proportions of the 7 steps including the temple on the top,” the Schøyen Collection stated.
The stele even features a line drawing of the ground plan of the temple, revealing both the outer walls and the inner arrangement of rooms.
Moreover, captions clearly identify the tower as the “great ziggurat of Babylon.”

Quote:“Here we have for the first time an illustration contemporary with Nebuchadnezzar II’s restoring and enlargement of the Tower of Babel, and with a caption making the identity absolutely sure,” the Schøyen Collection stated on its website

Really?! God punished people for building tall buildings? Then why doesn't he punish Trump for his Trump Tower? Or why didn't God punish people thousands of years earlier, back when Egyptians were building pyramids because they were much taller than those ziggurats?

We've sent objects into the sky far higher than any building in history, so is "God" okay with it now?

I guess what is most interesting in the article Huggy provides is how much Babel Tower myth grows spontaneously and organically, like all myths do all the time and believers just accept it and don't even notice that it changes. Like this part:

Quote:The inscription also depicts the Tower of Babel from a front view, “clearly showing the relative proportions of the 7 steps including the temple on the top,” the Schøyen Collection stated.
The stele even features a line drawing of the ground plan of the temple, revealing both the outer walls and the inner arrangement of rooms.
Moreover, captions clearly identify the tower as the “great ziggurat of Babylon.”

Nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that the tower is ziggurat and they even go furthering the myth by saying there were even seven steps “proportions of the 7 steps including the temple on the top,” Again, all that is said in Bible is that few men got together and started building the tower with brick - and that's it. There is no shape described, no time-frame, just that it was in or around Babylon. It could be ziggurat, then it could be some other building; it could have seven steps, but it could have no steps or hundred steps.

Babylon is one of the oldest cities in history and someone wrote that someone sometimes tried to build a tall building, so because it's so vague you can make a claim that it is historical because for the thousands of years that Babylon existed someone probably was trying to build a tall building and it probably collapsed - so what? This happened all the time. Just in medieval times hundreds of churches collapsed shortly after being built and even during building because not many people had good enough knowledge of building high buildings.

btw this is all that Bible says about the tower of Babel

Quote:Genesis 11:1-9
11 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.
3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
8 So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. 9 That is why it was called Babel—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.

(August 12, 2018 at 8:24 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 12, 2018 at 5:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It's not, you know.

Boru

Funny, you guys were in denial when I said the ancients were technologically advanced, turns out I was right.

As for the tower of Babel.


https://www.archaeology.wiki/blog/2011/1...ollection/

Quote:A team of scholars has discovered what might be the oldest representation of the Tower of Babel of Biblical fame, they report in a newly published book.
Carved on a black stone, which has already been dubbed the Tower of Babel stele, the inscription dates to 604-562 BCE.

Quote:The Tower of Babel stele stands out as one of “the stars in the firmament of the book,” wrote Andrew George, a professor of Babylonian at the University of London and editor of the book. The spectacular stone monument clearly shows the Tower and King Nebuchadnezzar II, who ruled Babylon some 2,500 years ago.

Quote:The inscription also depicts the Tower of Babel from a front view, “clearly showing the relative proportions of the 7 steps including the temple on the top,” the Schøyen Collection stated.
The stele even features a line drawing of the ground plan of the temple, revealing both the outer walls and the inner arrangement of rooms.
Moreover, captions clearly identify the tower as the “great ziggurat of Babylon.”

Quote:“Here we have for the first time an illustration contemporary with Nebuchadnezzar II’s restoring and enlargement of the Tower of Babel, and with a caption making the identity absolutely sure,” the Schøyen Collection stated on its website

None of which has anything to do with Genesis being the history of mankind. Stop deflecting.

Boru

(August 12, 2018 at 11:48 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

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I agree, it's easy to justify atrocities when one starts believing a certain race is inferior...

Or, conversely, when they begin to imagine that theirs was chosen by god himself.

(August 12, 2018 at 10:33 am)Cyberman Wrote: We've sent objects into the sky far higher than any building in history, so is "God" okay with it now?

It was never about how high one could go dummy, it was about getting into heaven though technology; We're not talking about the sky, were talking about a different dimension.

Now what mainstream science has stated about the Great pyramid being able to focus electromagnetic energy, we're talking about technologically advanced people.

(August 12, 2018 at 2:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 12, 2018 at 11:48 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

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I agree, it's easy to justify atrocities when one starts believing a certain race is inferior...

It's fascinating that you jump to a conclusion about my beliefs in the absence of any compelling evidence and based upon an apparent belief that the opposite is the case, even though you don't have sufficient evidence that it is -- that's just something you believe on ideological grounds. I remember someone criticizing people for jumping to unwarranted conclusions without valid evidence. I can't quite recall who that wise sage was, but we need him now more than ever.