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Proof that I'm immortal
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#31
RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 12:41 pm
Living organisms possess specific self-sustained processes which give rise to the self. When these processes end, the self ends. So, no, 'you' are not immortal.
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RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 1:04 pm (This post was last modified: September 2, 2018 at 1:04 pm by Mystic.)
Your assumption is material world exists. The only experience you have is with ideas, that is you are an idea, you are non-material, and everything you experience are ideas you are experiencing, including colors.

It happens to be material and non-material are such that there cannot be interaction between the two, it's virtually impossible by their opposite nature.

Since you experience non-material and have no idea what the hell material would even be as your experience with feeling pain, weight, are all end the ideas, you should conclude material world doesn't exist.

Everything that exists are words/ideas of God brought to life through his command be and it is.

That's reality, and if God pleases, you will cease to exist, but he will keep you alive even after you die.
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RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 1:30 pm (This post was last modified: September 2, 2018 at 1:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
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#34
RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 1:41 pm
I think the ultimate proof of immortality comes if I cut your head off and gain your power.

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RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 2:04 pm
(September 2, 2018 at 1:41 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I think the ultimate proof of immortality comes if I cut your head off and gain your power.

Silly girl. Cutting off the head doesn't gain you their power, only eating the heart can do that.

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#36
RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 2:27 pm
(September 2, 2018 at 8:26 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: I suppose if you identify the self as the energy you are comprised of, you don't die, and never will. You will just continually flow to a more and more entropic state.

However, most of us identify "self" with our personal conscious experience (either directly or indirectly) and that will end. It's only a matter of time.

I get most of my self identity thru my penis. As you might have guessed, my identity has been dwindling.
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RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 2:32 pm
(September 2, 2018 at 2:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 2, 2018 at 1:41 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I think the ultimate proof of immortality comes if I cut your head off and gain your power.

Silly girl. Cutting off the head doesn't gain you their power, only eating the heart can do that.

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I can do that, too.

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RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 2:39 pm
(September 2, 2018 at 5:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 2, 2018 at 5:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You disrupted the organization of the wood. Until it rots or gets burned, etc., it's still the same wood.

But it isn't a plank of wood.

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(September 2, 2018 at 5:48 am)Shantideva Wrote: But you would never look at the river water, and say that's not the river. You would never look at the ocean and say none of this water came from the river. We are ever changing beings.

*sigh*  Let me try this another way.  Suppose I kill you.  I take your corpse and grind it up. I take the resulting goo and burn it.  I take those ashes and reduce them with acid.  I take what's left and place it on a rocket and plunge it into the sun.  The total energy of the universe hasn't changed, but in what sense are you still 'you'?

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RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 2:57 pm (This post was last modified: September 2, 2018 at 2:57 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(September 2, 2018 at 2:39 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(September 2, 2018 at 5:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But it isn't a plank of wood.

Boru

*sigh*  Let me try this another way.  Suppose I kill you.  I take your corpse and grind it up. I take the resulting goo and burn it.  I take those ashes and reduce them with acid.  I take what's left and place it on a rocket and plunge it into the sun.  The total energy of the universe hasn't changed, but in what sense are you still 'you'?

Boru

Remind me never to piss you off.

No need, for I am the very soul of gentility, and anyone who denies it will get to have a brief (but intense) conversation with Mr. Wood Chipper.

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RE: Proof that I'm immortal
September 2, 2018 at 3:19 pm (This post was last modified: September 2, 2018 at 3:23 pm by purplepurpose.)
Even if God himself send His angels to offer permanent death or work for His holiness, I bet a lot of people would chose permanent death. I would certainly chose permanent death because I won't feel regret, anger, fear, pain, I will be just sleeping without actual dreams. Deep sleep is the closest thing we have to death and it's perfectly peaceful.
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