(September 4, 2018 at 6:55 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 3, 2018 at 7:17 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Are these other people also not yogis?  Fail again.  

Everybody here thinks that you're an idiot and a fool.  Are you sure you want to go with the idea that what everybody thinks is true?

But there's a bigger problem here.  You tell me to ask people who believe meditation and yoga lead to God whether meditation and yoga lead to God.  Of course they are going to say so, because you've selected them because they believe that.  Ask people who believe the earth is flat and they'll tell you that the earth is flat!  Duh!  It's tautological.  Ask people who think chocolate ice cream is the best and you'll find out that chocolate ice cream is the best!  Are you really this stupid? That you would think that it is evidence of anything only proves that you're a brainless twat.  No, the real test is to ask a random selection of wise people.  And such a random selection of wise people will tell you different things.  You yourself have said in the past that yoga isn't the only way to get there, so you're even contradicting yourself.  So once again you show yourself to be the idiot that you are.  

Idiot's like you aren't remotely qualified to tell a real yogi from a fake yogi.  Tell me, what exactly are your qualifications for telling a fake yogi from a real yogi?  Are you claiming special knowledge or skill?

You don't have the first clue what a real yogi is.  You think your ignorance is evidence.  It is not.

How on earth you expect that someone who does not do serious meditation would be able to tell you something that make any sense about meditation?  

It would be like pretending that a plumber is an expert in the electrical field or the other way around.
Can't you see how stupid you are?    

Who is saying anything about meditation other than that it isn't the only way to realize divine truth? You're suggesting that "serious" meditators know that it is. That's just plain stupid. Second, you're assuming that I haven't done "serious" meditation. I have. So we're back to one opinion against another opinion. And no matter how many people you line up who believe that meditation is the way to God, I can line up an equal number who say that meditation is not the only path to realization of ultimate truth. So, at the end of the day, it's just opinion against opinion. Like I said, if you ask flat earthers their opinion, you know what you'll get. So, first of all, you don't even understand the problem. And second of all, you're appealing to people who already believe that something is true in order to determine that it is true, AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING YOU ARE APPEALING TO. That's a fallacious argument to authority, in addition to everything else. If I said to you, me and these 1,000 atheists believe that the brain produces consciousness, would that be evidence that the brain produces consciousness? No, of course not! That you can see it with respect to 1,000 atheists but not with respect to 1,000 "serious" meditators only shows that you hold double standards about the subject. You're being a fucking idiot again.

So, still no evidence that I am not a yogini, just a bunch of people who might agree with you. That's not evidence. Try again.

Quote:Do you have any actual evidence that the police planted those bombs and firearms?  No?  I didn't think so.  A theory of a conspiracy, without any evidence, is just a conspiracy theory.  Nothing more.

Would you employ a Known pedophile to look after your young daughter?

That is what I am trying to tell you yog.  
You can not possibly believe anyone who let his own people starve and suffer like those corrupted and materialistic people who run India.  

Wake up and grow up yog before dementia take hold of you.  
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If I did employ a known pedophile to look after my young daughter, after he had looked after her for a night, would his being a known pedophile be evidence that he molested my daughter? No, it wouldn't. Some in the Indian police are and were corrupt. Some politicians are corrupt. That doesn't mean that all politicians are corrupt. Or that they are corrupt all the time. You need some actual evidence that the police involved were known to be corrupt AND that they were acting corruptly in the case of the Ananda Marga searches. You don't know either. So you've got squat! You don't even know the names of the officers involved. Your argument simply doesn't wash. It's just more bullshit.

(September 4, 2018 at 11:09 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 4, 2018 at 6:55 am)Little Rik Wrote: How on earth you expect that someone who does not do serious meditation would be able to tell you something that make any sense about meditation?  

It would be like pretending that a plumber is an expert in the electrical field or the other way around.
Can't you see how stupid you are?    

Who is saying anything about meditation other than that it isn't the only way to realize divine truth?  You're suggesting that "serious" meditators know that it is.  That's just plain stupid.  Second, you're assuming that I haven't done "serious" meditation.  I have.  So we're back to one opinion against another opinion.  And no matter how many people you line up who believe that meditation is the way to God, I can line up an equal number who say that meditation is not the only path to realization of ultimate truth.  So, at the end of the day, it's just opinion against opinion.  Like I said, if you ask flat earthers their opinion, you know what you'll get.  So, first of all, you don't even understand the problem.  And second of all, you're appealing to people who already believe that something is true in order to determine that it is true, AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING YOU ARE APPEALING TO.  That's a fallacious argument to authority, in addition to everything else.  If I said to you, me and these 1,000 atheists believe that the brain produces consciousness, would that be evidence that the brain produces consciousness?   No, of course not!  That you can see it with respect to 1,000 atheists but not with respect to 1,000 "serious" meditators only shows that you hold double standards about the subject.  You're being a fucking idiot again.

So, still no evidence that I am not a yogini, just a bunch of people who might agree with you.  That's not evidence.  Try again.

Oh, please leave brain and consciousness alone yog.
You got NO clue of whatsoever about the difference between brain, mind, consciousness without even mention what is the difference between outer consciousness and inner consciousness or what is the inner force that suggest every human being to go forward.

Please if you really ever tried any sort of meditation in the past take it seriously rather than pretend that you ever did seriously.
Amen.    

Quote:Do you have any actual evidence that the police planted those bombs and firearms?  No?  I didn't think so.  A theory of a conspiracy, without any evidence, is just a conspiracy theory.  Nothing more.

Quote:Would you employ a Known pedophile to look after your young daughter?

That is what I am trying to tell you yog.  
You can not possibly believe anyone who let his own people starve and suffer like those corrupted and materialistic people who run India.  

Wake up and grow up yog before dementia take hold of you.  

Quote:If I did employ a known pedophile to look after my young daughter, after he had looked after her for a night, would his being a known pedophile be evidence that he molested my daughter?  No, it wouldn't.  Some in the Indian police are and were corrupt.  Some politicians are corrupt.  That doesn't mean that all politicians are corrupt.  Or that they are corrupt all the time.  You need some actual evidence that the police involved were known to be corrupt AND that they were acting corruptly in the case of the Ananda Marga searches.  You don't know either.  So you've got squat!  You don't even know the names of the officers involved.  Your argument simply doesn't wash.  It's just more bullshit.

Plenty of evidence yog.
Why would the Indian apparatus of so called intelligentia arrest Sarkar, try their best to poison and kill him and then after seven years once the Indira Gandhi regime collapsed free him out of the blue?  

Been there seen that yog.
You on the contrary were and still are living in a bubble of fantasy.  

(August 25, 2018 at 11:06 am)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote:

(August 25, 2018 at 10:47 am)Little Rik Wrote: Yes you did indeed.
By saying.................A false hope offering comfort is always more appealing to most people than the harsh reality of truth............you imply that you know what the truth is.  

Take your time Kit.
Now LR goes to sleep so I can wait till tomorrow for you to put up or admit that you don't know what you are talking about.  

Don't even think about making this into an NDE thread.

I'm psychic.

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 4, 2018 at 11:09 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Who is saying anything about meditation other than that it isn't the only way to realize divine truth?  You're suggesting that "serious" meditators know that it is.  That's just plain stupid.  Second, you're assuming that I haven't done "serious" meditation.  I have.  So we're back to one opinion against another opinion.  And no matter how many people you line up who believe that meditation is the way to God, I can line up an equal number who say that meditation is not the only path to realization of ultimate truth.  So, at the end of the day, it's just opinion against opinion.  Like I said, if you ask flat earthers their opinion, you know what you'll get.  So, first of all, you don't even understand the problem.  And second of all, you're appealing to people who already believe that something is true in order to determine that it is true, AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING YOU ARE APPEALING TO.  That's a fallacious argument to authority, in addition to everything else.  If I said to you, me and these 1,000 atheists believe that the brain produces consciousness, would that be evidence that the brain produces consciousness?   No, of course not!  That you can see it with respect to 1,000 atheists but not with respect to 1,000 "serious" meditators only shows that you hold double standards about the subject.  You're being a fucking idiot again.

So, still no evidence that I am not a yogini, just a bunch of people who might agree with you.  That's not evidence.  Try again.

Oh, please leave brain and consciousness alone yog.
You got NO clue of whatsoever about the difference between brain, mind, consciousness without even mention what is the difference between outer consciousness and inner consciousness or what is the inner force that suggest every human being to go forward.

So, just like your idea that vibrations are alive, you're full of opinions, but no actual evidence.

Are you currently one with God?
No, you aren't.
Are any of these serious meditators one with God?
No, they are not.
So why would I look to you or them about how to be united with God?
That's just plain stupid!
Would you look to someone who has never been to France to learn about France?

You have no evidence that I am not a yogini. It's just more bullshit you believe because it suits you to do so.

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Please if you really ever tried any sort of meditation in the past take it seriously rather than pretend that you ever did seriously.
Amen.    

That's not even English. What the fuck are you trying to say?

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote:

Quote:Do you have any actual evidence that the police planted those bombs and firearms?  No?  I didn't think so.  A theory of a conspiracy, without any evidence, is just a conspiracy theory.  Nothing more.

Quote:Would you employ a Known pedophile to look after your young daughter?

That is what I am trying to tell you yog.  
You can not possibly believe anyone who let his own people starve and suffer like those corrupted and materialistic people who run India.  

Wake up and grow up yog before dementia take hold of you.  

Quote:If I did employ a known pedophile to look after my young daughter, after he had looked after her for a night, would his being a known pedophile be evidence that he molested my daughter?  No, it wouldn't.  Some in the Indian police are and were corrupt.  Some politicians are corrupt.  That doesn't mean that all politicians are corrupt.  Or that they are corrupt all the time.  You need some actual evidence that the police involved were known to be corrupt AND that they were acting corruptly in the case of the Ananda Marga searches.  You don't know either.  So you've got squat!  You don't even know the names of the officers involved.  Your argument simply doesn't wash.  It's just more bullshit.

Plenty of evidence yog.
Why would the Indian apparatus of so called intelligentia arrest Sarkar,

Not relevant.

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: try their best to poison and kill him

Not relevant even if true.

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: and then after seven years once the Indira Gandhi regime collapsed free him out of the blue?

Not relevant again.

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Been there seen that yog.
You on the contrary were and still are living in a bubble of fantasy.  

I'm living in a bubble of fantasy yet your world is built on conspiracy theories and the opinions of "serious meditators" who don't know what they're talking about.

I see. Tell me again about all the evidence that you have that vibrations are alive.

(September 5, 2018 at 9:20 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Oh, please leave brain and consciousness alone yog.
You got NO clue of whatsoever about the difference between brain, mind, consciousness without even mention what is the difference between outer consciousness and inner consciousness or what is the inner force that suggest every human being to go forward.

So, just like your idea that vibrations are alive, you're full of opinions, but no actual evidence.

Are you currently one with God?
No, you aren't.
Are any of these serious meditators one with God?
No, they are not.
So why would I look to you or them about how to be united with God?
That's just plain stupid!
Would you look to someone who has never been to France to learn about France?

You have no evidence that I am not a yogini.  It's just more bullshit you believe because it suits you to do so.

One more stupid point.
A white belt doesn't necessary have to learn the first steps from a black belt.
As the time and the progress improve then the black belt will give the final teaching that is why in our yoga we got several lessons which are given as the student progress.  

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Please if you really ever tried any sort of meditation in the past take it seriously rather than pretend that you ever did seriously.
Amen.    

Quote:That's not even English.  What the fuck are you trying to say?

Simple.
It means that you either never practice yoga seriously or you got some form of yoga that yoga is not.  

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Plenty of evidence yog.
Why would the Indian apparatus of so called intelligentia arrest Sarkar,

Quote:Not relevant.

Nothing that contradict you is relevant.
Obviously yog.  

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: try their best to poison and kill him

Quote:Not relevant even if true.

Nothing that contradict you is relevant.
Obviously yog.  

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: and then after seven years once the Indira Gandhi regime collapsed free him out of the blue?

Quote:Not relevant again.

Nothing that contradict you is relevant.
Obviously yog.  

(September 5, 2018 at 7:20 am)Little Rik Wrote: Been there seen that yog.
You on the contrary were and still are living in a bubble of fantasy.

Quote:I'm living in a bubble of fantasy yet your world is built on conspiracy theories and the opinions of "serious meditators" who don't know what they're talking about.

Evidence yog, evidence that Sarkar was a con-man or get lost.    

Quote:I see.  Tell me again about all the evidence that you have that vibrations are alive.

1) Just how I thought.
Not being able to explain the difference between brain, mind and consciousness now you try to move to a different subject (vibrations) thinking that I don't notice your trick.
Shame yog, shame.  


2) Einstein already said that matter is energy and everything is made of energy.
Energy is consciousness so vibrations which are energy-consciousness are obviously alive.  

Don't you worry yog.
Science is getting there and can no longer deny the connection between energy and consciousness.
A pity that idiots will have to be dragged along like bag of potatoes as soon as science force them.
Wouldn't be better to make good use of your brain instead?  

(September 1, 2018 at 3:48 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote:

(September 1, 2018 at 2:06 pm)robvalue Wrote: Well God will never abandon you. Even if you forget all about him, he'll be right there, torturing you forever and ever for not kissing his arse.

I Will Not Kill You And Also I Make Ink

Mate, the only person who actually replied honestly with actual views was CL. Kudos and all that to her, the rest of the God fearing community failed to tell me anything, par for the course.

Hugster likened heaven to becoming a part of the Q Continuum. That was a first for me, I wouldn’t be down with messing with “lesser beings” but if I got to pal around with my own Jean luc Picard I might damn well convert.