(August 22, 2018 at 12:06 am)Cecelia Wrote: Is there a line you're not willing to cross for god?

Let's say, like Abraham, God came down and asked you to sacrifice your child?  Would you do that for him?  Or would you draw the line and say "no"

What lines are there?  I mean it's easy to say that "Oh god wouldn't ask me to do that!"  (He asked Abraham to do it, so I don't see why not).  Would you do whatever God asked you to? 

I'm sure the most common answer will be "Well, God wouldn't ask me to do something so terrible! So I'd know it wasn't god."  To which I have to ask why Abraham did not think the same thing, and what therefore makes him credible in the least?

anything there is not scriptural president for killing anyone in the name of God.. Keep in mind I am a Christian and not an OT character. "It's this whole other religion." Which you think is not. because you keep mentioning abraham. But again after Christ died he specifically said no one else need die. so again... whole other religion! if you want to frame a question based on the religion you must be willing to take an answer like this to the bank. If however if you want a murderous answer you must change the rules of the religion to resemble something like the agreement God had with abraham as that was a personal agreement and not even a jewish thing.

(September 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote:

(August 22, 2018 at 12:06 am)Cecelia Wrote: Is there a line you're not willing to cross for god?

Let's say, like Abraham, God came down and asked you to sacrifice your child?  Would you do that for him?  Or would you draw the line and say "no"

What lines are there?  I mean it's easy to say that "Oh god wouldn't ask me to do that!"  (He asked Abraham to do it, so I don't see why not).  Would you do whatever God asked you to? 

I'm sure the most common answer will be "Well, God wouldn't ask me to do something so terrible! So I'd know it wasn't god."  To which I have to ask why Abraham did not think the same thing, and what therefore makes him credible in the least?

anything there is not scriptural president for killing anyone in the name of God..

Incoherent.

(September 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: Keep in mind I am a Christian and not an OT character. "It's this whole other religion." Which you think is not. because you keep mentioning abraham.

You reject the OT? Fine, but then the 10c are right out.

(September 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: But again after Christ died he specifically said no one else need die. so again... whole other religion! if you want to frame a question based on the religion you must be willing to take an answer like this to the bank. If however if you want a murderous answer you must change the rules of the religion to resemble something like the agreement God had with abraham as that was a personal agreement and not even a jewish thing.

Sure. "christ" died but didn't and he knew it beforehand. Some sacrifice.

(September 5, 2018 at 2:54 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(September 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: anything there is not scriptural president for killing anyone in the name of God..

Incoherent.

there are no Christian examples of God demanding human sacrifice. Jesus was an OT example of a blood sacrifice His conenant "christianity" did not happen until after his resurrection and ascension back into heaven the exact pin point would be acts 2 :38 when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the people. So from this start of 'christianity' till the projected end in revelation there is no call for human sacrifice. do you understand now or do i need to make it more simple for you?

(September 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: Keep in mind I am a Christian and not an OT character. "It's this whole other religion." Which you think is not. because you keep mentioning abraham.

You reject the OT? Fine, but then the 10c are right out.
So? Christ boils all of the law down to 2 commands. that is all we have as Christians. OT jews, the unsaved and those new to chirst live under the old law. The redeemed are expected to Love God with all of our being and our neighbors as our selves! if we can honestly do this the law is full filled.

(September 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: But again after Christ died he specifically said no one else need die. so again... whole other religion! if you want to frame a question based on the religion you must be willing to take an answer like this to the bank. If however if you want a murderous answer you must change the rules of the religion to resemble something like the agreement God had with abraham as that was a personal agreement and not even a jewish thing.

Quote:Sure. "christ" died but didn't and he knew it beforehand. Some sacrifice.

If you jump on a live grenade to save your buddies, you know before hand you are going to die horribly correct? is it any less of a sacrifice if you did it without thinking or if you made the decision before hand?

plus you missed the point I made here. it was not about christ dying it was about after christ died no other deaths were required from God, so then to ask would you kill your son if God askes, we know God would never ask a christian to do that.

(September 5, 2018 at 10:56 am)Drich Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 2:54 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Incoherent.

there are no Christian examples of God demanding human sacrifice. Jesus was an OT example of a blood sacrifice His conenant "christianity" did not happen until after his resurrection and ascension back into heaven the exact pin point would be acts 2 :38 when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the people. So from this start of 'christianity' till the projected end in revelation there is no call for human sacrifice. do you understand now or do i need to make it more simple for you?

Before I tell you I will grant you only one opportunity to retract. After that, no prisoners will be taken.

I am not referring to Abe at all, although it was yet another example of how horrible your god actually is. No, I was referring to actual human sacrifice.

Face it. You have not read the holey babble.

(September 4, 2018 at 3:11 pm)Drich Wrote: But again after Christ died he specifically said no one else need die. so again... whole other religion! if you want to frame a question based on the religion you must be willing to take an answer like this to the bank. If however if you want a murderous answer you must change the rules of the religion to resemble something like the agreement God had with abraham as that was a personal agreement and not even a jewish thing.

Why is everyone still dying?

(September 5, 2018 at 10:56 am)Drich Wrote: If you jump on a live grenade to save your buddies, you know before hand you are going to die horribly correct?

Yup. You also know that you are not coming back the next day. God's bastard knew he was. Thus not a sacrifice of any stripe.

(September 5, 2018 at 10:56 am)Drich Wrote: is it any less of a sacrifice if you did it without thinking or if you made the decision before hand?

Course it is. The whole thing is a stack of lies. 3 days? My butt. Day and a half at best according to the babble. And the tinpot would be jewish dictator already knew that he would be merely inconvenienced for a weekend.

(September 5, 2018 at 10:56 am)Drich Wrote: plus you missed the point I made here. it was not about christ dying it was about after christ died no other deaths were required from God,

Well we are clocking up something in the region of 120 billion deaths so far. Your god's promises seem to be remarkably useless.

(September 5, 2018 at 10:56 am)Drich Wrote: so then to ask would you kill your son if God askes,

No. Were such a deity to actually exist, I would promptly invite him/her/it/housecat to take an unlikely anatomical excursion. On the other hand, if the imaginary voices in your head told you to perform such a heinous act, you would without question. That is sick.

(September 5, 2018 at 10:56 am)Drich Wrote: we know God would never ask a christian to do that.

No, you don't. Because your god did. It's in your holey babble.

At least it's a good line.  Not killing for god is a good test of basic humanity, lol. It may not be very biblical, but so what..most of what christians believe is as divorced from magic book as it is from reality.