LOL, was added to Neo's ignore list.

(September 5, 2018 at 10:47 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 10:01 am)Kit Wrote: All the time.  

Since you, an others, consider me delusional why don't you put me on your ignore list? Why would you want to have a discussion with someone you consider delusional? Why should I continue to discuss theism with someone who considers me delusional?

How many people are on my ignore list? None. Because I have an open mind and want to hear others views.

How many are on yours? No idea, but you just sent me PM stating that I am on your ignore list.

Good for you. Continue sticking your fingers in your ears and bowing before the sky fairy.

Heaven forfend that anyone else might have a different opinion or that you could even vaguely defend your own.

(September 5, 2018 at 11:00 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 10:47 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Since you, an others, consider me delusional why don't you put me on your ignore list? Why would you want to have a discussion with someone you consider delusional? Why should I continue to discuss theism with someone who considers me delusional?

How many people are on my ignore list? None. Because I have an open mind and want to hear others views.

How many are on yours? No idea, but you just sent me PM stating that I am on your ignore list.

Good for you. Continue sticking your fingers in your ears and bowing before the sky fairy.

Heaven forfend that anyone else might have a different opinion or that you could even vaguely defend your own.

At the rate Neo's going, he'll only be able to converse with his fellow delusional theists.

(September 5, 2018 at 10:55 am)Kit Wrote: LOL, was added to Neo's ignore list.

Wheeee. What fun. Me too.

Neo is going "LaLaLa" with fingers in ears. The meltdown is amusing to observe.

Yeah, guys your arguments are becoming too good for neo-scholastic that he feels his religion chirping away when he reads them so he has to ignore you to preserve his faith.

It's like that scene from "Back To The Future" when Marty checks on his family photo and sees himself and siblings fading away, that's exactly how it is with neo-scholastic and Jesus when he reads your posts.

(September 4, 2018 at 7:09 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(September 4, 2018 at 5:36 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Mathematical truths aren't objects.  Numbers aren't objects.  Your own words betray you.

I don't care if you reject the notion of objects of intellect. To me that is a matter of opinion and cause for debate. What I really want to know is if you think people who believe in mathematical objects are delusional.

What do you mean by a mathematical object? That's a term of art, and it's not clear what your question is.

(September 5, 2018 at 9:29 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 7:52 am)polymath257 Wrote: Mathematical objects exist *as language constructs*. If you are claiming that deities only exist in the same way, you might be able to avoid the delusion label...Platonism was the first major philosophical mistake.

Is there anyone who will fucking answer the question clearly and without caveat!!! Is it or is it not delusional to be a Platonist and/or believe in intellectual objects such as 'The Good'? YES or NO?

I think that the answer is that morality is subjective until you call someone by the wrong pronoun, or refuse to bake a cake. And testimony is not evidence, until a rather shady character, testified under pressure against a president that you don’t like.

(September 5, 2018 at 11:50 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 9:29 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Is there anyone who will fucking answer the question clearly and without caveat!!! Is it or is it not delusional to be a Platonist and/or believe in intellectual objects such as 'The Good'? YES or NO?

I think that the answer is that morality is subjective until you call someone by the wrong pronoun, or refuse to bake a cake. And testimony is not evidence, until a rather shady character, testified under pressure against  a president that you don’t like.

Morality is subjective.  That doesn’t mean some subjective morality can’t through the mechanism adopted by a society to regulate itself be imposed also upon those who disagree.

Think of it this way, even though our morality is technically subjective, if you behave in some ways that you might think is not inconsistent with its being subjective, we will hang you.  Got it?

Testimony doesn’t convince me jesus rose again, because there is no evidence other than those testimonies that any such thing is possible at all, much less such a thing instantiated a particular occurance on that occassion.  Testimony doe convince me sufficiently trump is criminal during his election Champaign because there is ample evidence besides those testimony that such a thing is possible, and ample evidence the particular criminal trump imstantiated similar occurances of criminal behavior.    Got it?

(September 5, 2018 at 9:29 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(September 5, 2018 at 7:52 am)polymath257 Wrote: Mathematical objects exist *as language constructs*. If you are claiming that deities only exist in the same way, you might be able to avoid the delusion label...Platonism was the first major philosophical mistake.

Is there anyone who will fucking answer the question clearly and without caveat!!! Is it or is it not delusional to be a Platonist and/or believe in intellectual objects such as 'The Good'? YES or NO?

The world is not always black or white. It depends on how you apply the word delusional. Many have already indicated they don't think it works here but there is ample room for disagreement. While I would answer "not necessarily", I do worry that your concept of what a concept is is deficient.

Quote:I think that the answer is that morality is subjective until you call someone by the wrong pronoun, or refuse to bake a cake. And testimony is not evidence, until a rather shady character, testified under pressure against  a president that you don’t like

Way to not understand Subjectivism 

And he wasn't pressured he was convicted legitimately and amazing he's shady yet your president defends him funny how his credibility is in question only after he turns on Trump and funnier still you can't deal with distinctions between his conviction and your god man claims .