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Prayer/Meditation DOES make the world a better place
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Prayer/Meditation DOES make the world a better place
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Correlation does not imply causation.
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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Apologies, I missed that. I'll read the article and get back to you afterwards. For now, I'll just (re)make the observation that the nation with the highest number of religious followers - thus by implication the highest volume of prayers per capita at least some percentage of which almost certainly come from victims referencing crime in one form or another - has the highest recorded crime rate on the planet.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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People confuse meditation and prayer?
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(September 20, 2011 at 4:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: the nation with the highest number of religious followers - thus by implication the highest volume of prayers per capita at least some percentage of which almost certainly come from victims referencing crime in one form or another - has the highest recorded crime rate on the planet.

Well it's too bad we could not have an accurate survey on what people pray about. I just merely suspect that most people who do pray usually pray about their own matters in life or do not concentrate their prayers on one particular goal as was accomplished in Washington.

*SIGH*

Religion has been quite misguided in revealing the true nature of prayer and meditation due to the culturally diversionary nature of global religion. If atheists are going to criticize anything, it should be that. Thus the cultural division of spirituality has indeed gotten many Christians to think that meditation is prayer. Is meditation not the concentration of thought at times, and at other times the concentration of calming the mind?
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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Imagine where we could be if instead of wasting time praying, these people did something constructive.
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(September 20, 2011 at 4:21 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Correlation does not imply causation.


Well ,actually,it does imply (suggest) that and sometimes it's true. However,it does not allow that inference (conclusion) in and of itself.

However, there is some truth in the assertion: IF meditators and the prayerful practice their rituals in private,they are not getting around annoying the rational. Consequently,the world is a more peaceful place.


There is some evidence that both prayer and meditation can have a positive effect on the practitioner,but only on them.

My favourite use of correlation comes from the nineteenth century: Glasow; Six months after all ministers in the Presbyterian Church were given a pay rise, it was found that the rate of prostitution in the city had risen by 7%.
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