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In support of Dr. Ford
#61
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
Thanks Aurora!
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#62
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
Quick fact-check of Trump’s mockery vs. Ford testimony



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#63
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
This is nice, Aurora. I’m in.
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#64
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
Not much i can add to this thread but a perspective of someone who got falsely accused of rape, the position K. purpots himself to be in. Lots has been said about the credibility of Ford based on experiences of female aquantances or family members.

Speaking as such a person (having been falsely accused of rape and going through a complete trial) i can say two things:

#1 Kavanaugh looks/acts not the least believable.
The first, and the last, and the only thing your lawer (if he is worth a penny) will tell you is to not, i repeat: to not attack the accuser. No.matter.what. You argue, you look at the evidence, you defend yourself, you may interrogate her in court, but handle her with silk gloves. But there is one single fucking thing you dont do, ever. Attack her.
Yet this is what K. did. Not directly, but by insinuating that she is part of some soncpiracy. Laughable.....at best.


#2 Ratio of false accusations
When i went to the best attorney you can buy for money and told him my story he went: "I am in this business now for over 20y years. Mostly i am involved in cases of rape and sexual assault, but so far there is only two cases in which i thought my client is innocent. You are the second."

I was around 20 when this happened. I was young and inexperienced and yes, i would hav elike dot attack her. Yet i had an attorney who knew better. But now that i am older i woud never act or behave like when i was 20, if i was in teh same situation. K. however reactedexactly like i would have liked, yet he is my current age and an attorney himself. Fuck, the whole mess is about him trying to be appointed to the highest jurisdictional position in your country, but he seems to lack the self control as well as experience/knowledge of how to behave in such a situation.

Irregadless of the actual case (him assaulting her or not), he clearly is unfit for this job, and i am not even adressing that he was possibly even more stupid if he got near perjury (needlessly!!!!) by trying to downplay how he acted as a 20y old. All he needed to do is to admit to how and who he was back then, and then explain how he has changed. Thats what we all do. Heck, i am sitting here and telling you about my (similar case). I should have never had gotten in such company where this could have happened to me, but i did. I was young and stupid. Now only "and" is left. Blush
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#65
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
Is anyone sending money or postcards to Judge Kavanaugh?

He is presumed innocent til proven guilty, no?

So far - no evidence ( unless you' d like to enter the Judges calendars as such) has been entered.

Just testimony by the accuser and accused - plus a few cheerleaders from both sides.

Is the guy guilty? It' s possible. Is her testimony accurate?  Maybe. (Talk to people at The Innocence Project - they have a pretty low opinion of eyewitness testimony - and have overturned many convictions where DNA evidence proved the accusers wrong)

Do we have any way of KNOWING?

Of course not - except for that predetermined sort of " knowledge, " born of convictions associated with political party affiliations.


So we see ( R ) - "The bitch is lying".

And

( D ) " Hang the bastard".


SSDD
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#66
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
So yet another cheerleader
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#67
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
Don't give in to the urge. Just /ignore.
(my advice, not a command of course)

Engaging these people has only given them a larger voice in the public sphere. As far as I'm concerned from now on, all they will get from me is polite refusal to acknowledge.

Oh yea, this is how you deal with bullies. Observe, don't absorb. Watch them but don't get involved.
Teaching this to my daughter right now, too.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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#68
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 4, 2018 at 4:33 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Is anyone sending money or postcards to Judge Kavanaugh?

Sure, and you can donate yourself
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https://www.gofundme.com/support-brett-kavanaugh

(October 4, 2018 at 4:33 am)onlinebiker Wrote: He is presumed innocent til proven guilty, no?

Sure, innocent til proven guilty, but that also includes republicans and other Trumpanzees who declare him innocent or simply don't care since they don't want an FBI investigation. And this meager FBI investigation that managed to be placed is heavy obstructed by Trump.

Also there are other problems with Kavanaugh - like what almost 1000 law professors who have signed a letter urging the Senate to reject Kavanaugh's nomination say:

Quote:Kavanaugh displayed a lack of judicial temperament that would be disqualifying for any court, and certainly for elevation to the highest court of this land.

Judge Kavanaugh exhibited a lack of commitment to judicious inquiry. Instead of being open to the necessary search for accuracy, Judge Kavanaugh was repeatedly aggressive with questioners.

Instead of trying to sort out with reason and care the allegations that were raised, Judge Kavanaugh responded in an intemperate, inflammatory and partial manner, as he interrupted and, at times, was discourteous to senators.
https://shareblue.com/650-law-professors...kavanaugh/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#69
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
Even if Dr Ford doesn't have time to read them now, I am sure she'll keep them and go over them at a later date. I am sure the support will be appreciated. And seeing them come in from all over the world will be quite fun. I think I'll send her one from Scotland.
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#70
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 3, 2018 at 4:33 pm)Aroura Wrote: I would actually appreciate it if people don't respond to these guys in this thread. Both of them are on ignore, but that turns out a useless tool if everyone feels the need to respond to their every trollish comment.

I can't stop you of course, but I did hope to stay focused on being positive for Dr. Ford. These guys detail every nice thing they see. Please don't let them this time.

And that way the liar can pretend not to see my evidence that she did indeed read my post and respond to it.

That really isn't a big deal. Attacking my wife - that's what makes you a cunt. 

The left hates nothing so much as women or minorities who dare to think for themselves and align with conservative values. The 53% of white women who voted for Trump - all apparently brainwashed by their husbands.  Dodgy
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