(October 11, 2018 at 2:21 am)robvalue Wrote: In the many years of experience I’ve had with Drich, I’ve come to believe he is someone who is incapable of empathy. I mean that literally, not that he chooses to ignore it. He doesn’t even understand the concept. He’s not capable of behaving any better, is what I’m saying; nor of having any desire to. That’s just how he is, for whatever reason, and it’s not his fault.

I say this because anger and disgust at the things he says, while totally understandable, are mismatched reactions (in my opinion). I’m not defending anything he actually says, of course. It’s just a coping mechanism I’m suggesting for any of our new members who decide to keep interacting with him.

Good advice mate, losing my temper and posting like I did was a huge mistake, it probably fed the situation and gave satisfaction, it wasn't a smart thing to do but its done now and cannot be undone, however, I can learn from it which I have done now thankfully.

(October 10, 2018 at 4:27 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(October 10, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Drich Wrote: not people... you. obviously someone put some thought into your words. Obviously again it wasn't yu as you do not have enough experience to make the claims you did. You used someone else's experience with me to have your mind made up for you... which is what makes you a puppet. 

I have no ill will towards puppets nor do I hate the people who wield them. I do have opinions on both but hate is not apart of the deal.

And as far as more person attacks Go.. where do you presume to have the knowledge to assign such a title as entitled or proud? when have you took the time to unbiasedly assess anything I have done?

In truth my first interaction with you ever was you calling me these very same names... so don't pretend now that I fired back a single volley to defend my own honor that you have been justified in anything you have said. You are a biased little pick nose sock puppet and a poor one at that, who again can't seem to hold his own topically as you have to yet make one topical observation or correction, and arementally limited to what amounts to spell check and speculations about another man's dook chute feels.

Is this your legacy? is this all you will be good for? just trading insults others make up for you?

Seriously how could you even wonder why I question your cognitive ability if after 4 posts your best efforts reflect the thoughts of others? Not even in a quotative form of using the thoughts of others/you are not quoting people, you are pretending to know me well enough to use the insults and observations of others to again think for you. Here's the thing little noob. the leftist world where accusation is the equivalent of the truth is all but gone. Granted there are a few hold outs but in truth America, americans won't have this protect the accuser at all cost mentality for much longer. which means unless you can adapt, you and people like you will simply be left to the fringes of the far left as anti social haters. which will have the same if not a more damaging stigma than what you would deem a racist now.

That said I'm done. I'll allow you the words, unless you learn to make a topical observation that deserves serious review.

FWIW, I don't consider you to be evil or unkind, Drich. Dishonest? That's an issue worth debating. I feel like on the one side you are committed to your position (truth be damned!) and one could argue that there is a fundamental dishonesty in doing something like that. On the other hand, I think that you, yourself believe most--if not all--of the positions you advance. So if you are merely arguing what you think is true, then you are being honest.

That said, you've taken some positions with which I vehemently disagree... and for good reason. And it's angered me to find you so "non-receptive" to things which are plain and obvious. But as angering as such instances are, I would still consider the accusations of evil or unkind to be misplaced.

Just my two cents.

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And then you posted that response to Thoreauvian just to prove me wrong. Awesome, dude.

Honestly I always though me being out right and honest was the one thing you all did not really question. So rather than assume I would say anything to prove a position, perhaps the positions I choose to counter or defend I have been through hell/my knowledge or thoughts on a given subject have been forged in the fire of life and hell, meaning I have lived extremes not one or two but on many many different things. grew up is 4 different religions grew up cross cultured was raise poor southern (truly poor southern has no race discrimination) was raise with a slave mentality as I was the first generation born out of imperial japan's annexation of korea, was abused sexually as a young man then rebelled hard against everything lost everything and everyone, mad at the world mad at God, want to take a swing at God/spit in his eye, couldn't so went after his people at school. He then gave me a chance to spit in his eye at my judgement. asked for a second chance was given one. still semi angry and rebellious it came to a head with my dad, he went nuts kick me and one of my sisters out. was lost thought I was doing the right thing, ask for direction God gave it to me via a messenger. laid out my whole life. even what I do here to some degree. (God was going to use me to help a lot of people who would otherwise have fallen through the cracks.) then turn my life around and worked with alot of people. including people in the inner cities because I grew up poor I saw no racial difference, we were the same culturally at the time. I have work there long enough to see the change and as a result in part the program closed. Then moved on to collage singles and all the BS that their professors gave them. which help me start answering questions. with the singles group we learned to date and be sociable in groups and before long we started to pair off and get married. as a result many maybe 2 dozen couples got married and many many kids were  born because of it. I got married out of that group. Shortly after learn my wife was a herion addict. work with her 7 years we struggled with addiction, and at the same time started a new business with a loan a stranger gave me. ever work a 15 hour day and worried your wife would be dead when you got home? ever work a 15 hour day to have your wife up the proceeds  for the whole day in her arm? now do it with a brand new truck payment and a business loan. All extremes all the time from one end of the social spectrum to the other. Now 15/18 years later business is booming, just signed a lease on my second location, living in a brand new (less than a year) 3500 square foot custom built home my wife designed on 10 acres and a little duck pond.

I speak with absolute certainty because I have lived it my self. I am not reporting what my friend said or experienced, alot of the times it is 1st person perspective. concerning God, slavery, race, study, the holy Spirit's involvement, my health the things I went through the things I came out of, and even if like for the AIDs stuff I did not have HIV I did indeed failed a hiv test and for two weeks lived as if this is it! Same with cancer. For 2 years they poked and prodded and was told there is a 98% chance of non hodgkin's lymphoma not  2% of the population just have what we consider to be high white cell numbers. they even check me every year and have the same high white count as a base line. Now they are screaming sorious of the liver and I don't drink.

Not only am I willing to provide proof I even in some cases offered to pay for the plane ticket so you can see for yourself, you can visit and speak with my family (the ones in the military, the UF professor the Rock guy the Nasa Guy my mom my sister my wife, I'd be happy to show you the business I have now and the new location, might be able to skype my best friend and best man, so you the wedding video, we could show pics of the camp and the inner city church effort at the lake mann community center. maybe pics of the date nights the girls I went out with and of course the pic of the litter I married. I can take people on the ride I gave my messenger.

Just all of it. asit is all real there is a foot print of everything to one degree or another.

That is why we must A/S/K for God as we do God leads us out well beyond any help we could ever get from anyone else. then allows you to try and fix it yourself. When all has failed and you know there is nothing you can do and nothing anyone else can do to help you. Yet help comes... You then know or can see the hand of God. When you ask for proof that is when God calls to you to come out of the boat and walk on the water towards him. Then like peter when you sink you know no one but God can help. when he does help you know him to be God.

I say that to say my life is littered with extreme examples of living because I have been so willing to follow God out well beyond the deep each and every time he asks, as a result Wisdom is gained. So when I speak it is not as you suppose, i will say anything to support a point. when I speak on a topic it is often because I have lived through the impossible and via divine provenance. I can speak about extremes because I lived through extremes. how many lierate CEO's do you know who aside from a start up LOAN has had no other help from any man what so ever create a company from the ground up, created two patentable ideas literally wrote and drafted the patent themselves from examples of others, have it granted sold it and then rolled a mom and pop shop into 2 location two different companies 20 employees, who right now spend anywhere from 4 to 6 hours a day answering theological questions and or defending bible based Christianity?

Without God none of this would be possible. God literally dumps opportunity in my lap. a similar company who makes roughly the same product but on a larger scale (my next evolution) asked how much we spend in advertising nationally? I said about 300.00 a month in out commercial truck trader adds (we have 10) he said that is not possible that he spends 25,000 a month every month to stay on top of every google search when ever you google our product. and I and my company in some regions beat him or often just one or two slots below his. Google often calls and ask me if I need any more customers or am I taking any new customers as a sales lead. I say no we are 6 to 9 month behind in orders right now. plus I tell them I see I'm always on the first page often under truck trader.... what else could I want? This to me is an example of God taking care of me.

I maybe wish we had a better web site or someone to help maintain our current inventory list on truck trader but outside of that everything just works extremely well not because of me but because God has given me something to support me and my guys/their families so I can work here with you all for so many hours a day. So then why would I not talk about everything I know to talk about? To go as deep as my life experience would allow me? to try and push what I know so that you can take an honest look at God and what he offers. most of you have no clue. sunday school and the church has seen to that.

You will also note there are subject I tend to stay away from. one either I've been asked by my wife to not talk about certain things or people or because I do not feel I know enough to give a subject just representation.

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(October 10, 2018 at 5:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(October 10, 2018 at 4:27 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

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And then you posted that response to Thoreauvian just to prove me wrong. Awesome, dude.

He always delivers.  It's never peak Drich.

Just call me the mail man..

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(October 11, 2018 at 2:21 am)robvalue Wrote: In the many years of experience I’ve had with Drich, I’ve come to believe he is someone who is incapable of empathy. I mean that literally, not that he chooses to ignore it. He doesn’t even understand the concept. He’s not capable of behaving any better, is what I’m saying; nor of having any desire to. That’s just how he is, for whatever reason, and it’s not his fault.

I say this because anger and disgust at the things he says, while totally understandable, are mismatched reactions (in my opinion). I’m not defending anything he actually says, of course. It’s just a coping mechanism I’m suggesting for any of our new members who decide to keep interacting with him.

Here's the thing.. IF my idea of right, is your idea of wrong... and my idea of wrong is your idea of right, then we will both see each others as unfeeling monsters..

Think thanos in the avengers movie. Thanos does not see himself as the bad guy. he literally sees himself as the savior of the universe because the universe is a finite resource from his perspective and life is potentially a limitless drain of finite resources, so his solution? the destruction of 1/2 of all life currently living. why? because overpopulation has many species of species simply living/surviving because of limited resources with 1/2 gone those left can not only survive but thrive...

position A/douche pop morality types think thanos' idea is pure evil. and anyone who does not agree 100% is also pure evil no discussion needed.

Position B which is my position on a great number of things which also mirrors God's thoughts.:
letting people starve when you can do something about it is evil, AND killing 1/2 of everyone is evil, so in either case both sides need redemption. So to judge one side more harshly than the other is point less. which for most of you who are to the left of douchebaggery/pop morality looks like a lack of empathy, when in fact I see your solution of letting people starve/live as being no more evil than killing everyone. so both are convicted and it then becomes a matter of who is to atone and who does not. 

If then thanos attones then he become more righteous even after killing 1/2 of everyone than the douche who wants people to live and starve.

It is simply a perspective that puts everyone on the same moral level. That none are 'good.' to judge what you call evil is to judge yourself evil, because no one is innocent, because if we break the smallest part of the law then it is the same as if we break all of it.

What you call a lack of empathy is what true tolerance looks like. Your version of tolerance allows you to hate those who do not align themselves with your DB morality. while I treat the good bad and ugly all the same.

(October 11, 2018 at 2:31 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(October 11, 2018 at 2:21 am)robvalue Wrote: In the many years of experience I’ve had with Drich, I’ve come to believe he is someone who is incapable of empathy. I mean that literally, not that he chooses to ignore it. He doesn’t even understand the concept. He’s not capable of behaving any better, is what I’m saying; nor of having any desire to. That’s just how he is, for whatever reason, and it’s not his fault.

That was my conclusion as well. He doesn't even understand the concept of empathy although of course he thinks that he does.

He'll probably now reply to me and / or you and demonstrate this to everyone. Either by arguing why it isn't needed or isn't relevant, or claiming that something else is empathy.

or that you misdiagnosed empathy as a choice not to side or judge people 'good' or award them special dispensation because of a perceived victim status. I treat everyone with the same blot of sin stain Christ Himself treated people with.

As with the woman caught in adultery and thrown before Jesus and was asked to judge her either by the law of God or by roman rule Jesus (like I do) shows you your own sin and askes which of you is without sin just like he did with the pharisees when he wrote their sin on the ground.

Take slavery.

You demand me to declare slavery is always bad.

Problem it is not. in fact millions would starve and die without modern slavery feeding them. not only that modern city life would not be possible. without slavery both the very rich and the very poor would cease to exist.

I can not take your side because I am among that wealthiest 5% of the population of the world that would be gone if not for modern field hands/slaves. but then I point out so are you all.. but your self righteousness will not accept it simply because you renamed slaves migrant workers. or the plantation works hapens in central or south america and out of sight is out of mind.

For me it is far more evil to pretend there are no slaves and ignore the working conditions and the below living wage these people get paid, just so in my mind I can have peace. I would far rather own up to directly benefit from modern slavery than pretend I am something I am not. So I can not then make the same self righteous declaration that all slavery is bad because I see all that differs from modern slavery and 1700's slavery is the color of the field hand's skin, and the terms we use to describe these men. The living conditions are the same, the dependance on the plantation is the same the product is even the same. what is different? what we call these men. it is like changing the word baby to fetus and now because it is not a baby it is ok to kill it! if you don't think so stab a pregnant woman in the baby sack and see if it is not murder if she refers to it as her child, yet if she calls it a fetus then she can pay someone to kill that very same life with no legal consequence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Eui_t8bO_s

So again.. I can not look at myself being the first generation in my mom's family born out of imperial japanese slavery (which was way worse than white on black slavery, as they were not bought but annex people who were a drain on the resources japan wanted for themselves so they had order to thin out the heard of anyone who could not work. I've got horror stories of family be mutilated if you like. ) Still can not call slavery itself bad or evil. As again I am a direct beneficiary of a slave society. So I reason it is the men who are in power who give slavery a evil slant or a good one.. but because I am not willing to turn my mind off and call all slavery bad without looking at the facts/truth I am without feeling, when in fact I am able to show what true tolerance is. I am who you pretend to be. and that is a picture of a forward thinking progressive man, which is so foreign to you, you misdiagnosis my reason and intent.

Truthfully we are all guilty of slavery to one degree or another, so check the bible and it does not out right condemn but rather sets rules to govern slavery by. It even call us to submit before God as a willing slave, which is why I would think a Satan run community would call slavery bad no matter what/not allow to discuss or think about it. because it kills any chance of you ever going before God.

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(October 11, 2018 at 3:20 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(October 10, 2018 at 9:54 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote: I found it.

Enjoy it.

Drich is against abortion but defends a book where children have their brains dashed out again rocks because an imaginary being commands it.

Nope.. I am not against abortion. Read what I wrote to thor.

I said abortion should not be a federal mandate. meaning all states should not be made to provide abortion clinics/permits. If my state wishes to opt out then abortion should not be legal in that state. However if you live in a self righteous or evil place and the people wish to murder the unborn then they should be allowed to be as evil as they want, as this maybe a big step toward bottom or the reason to seek repentance. I simply do not think some douche from california should have any say in what the people in the state of florida decides for itself on abortion.

And I am for evil being dashed against the rocks if God prescribes it!!

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(October 11, 2018 at 3:30 am)Mathilda Wrote: He will also do whatever it takes to make sure that his children are also Xtians. And when you ask him whether that means physically beating them he'll just respond with 'whatever it takes'.

 or  or  or 

Anyone who thinks that their belief system entitles them to dominate control or judge others or what they can or cannot do because of iron age documents must never for the sake of humanity be allowed to prevail.

(October 11, 2018 at 1:42 pm)adey67 Wrote: Anyone who thinks that their belief system entitles them to dominate control or judge others or what they can or cannot do because of iron age documents must never for the sake of humanity be allowed to prevail.

Anyone who thinks that their belief system entitles them to dominate control or judge others or what they can or cannot do because of post modern popular culture must never for the sake of humanity be allowed to prevail.

(October 11, 2018 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Just call me the mail man..

You come in quarts!?! (old joke)

(October 11, 2018 at 2:36 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(October 11, 2018 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Just call me the mail man..

You come in quarts!?! (old joke)

mail man... "I deliver." n/m older jk

Old bitty on Main Street here in Tinytown is THIS kind of person:
 while yelling "Get off my sidewalk!"

Her yard has one of these signs:

We had words today.  I'm not putting up with her bitching about me walking my dogs down a town owned sidewalk any more.  I think she knows that now.

Ya'll have a collection thread here for bail money?  I might need it soon.

Jesus fucking Christ this douche condones and excuses slavery now, SO I WAS RIGHT to be justifiably outraged and also upset by his dishonest weasel word debate tactics, I thought I perhaps had gone to far but clearly I didn't go far enough, the guy really is a fucking monster and evil too, and any of you tacitly defending him or excusing his behaviour should be absolutely fucking ashamed of yourselves too, this individual is the sort of person who in the 15th and 16th century would have been cool with burning people at the stake, probably would have physically done it himself too.

Humans in general, are full of hate. Hate is easy. Humans are lazy. It's a simple equation.