Sorry Stucky but I am VERY offended that you think a fellow human being deserves an eternity of torture just for not thinking the way you do. Go suck balls, I'll call your fake fairy tale man jebus as much as I fucking want.

(September 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm)Stucky Wrote: I believe that the act of homosexual sex is a sin, just the same as sex outside of marriage, stealing, lying or many other things that God decreed as sins, however, none of these sins will keep a person out of Heaven if that person accepts the fact that Jesus died to pay the penalty for their sins. Salvation is given to anyone, anywhere in the world, that accepts Jesus free gift of forgiveness.

Stealing, lying, sex outside of marriage, homosexuality, and many other things are all sins?

Fantastic! ^_^ I didn't want to go to 'Heaven' after I die... seeing as I live it here on Earth

Quote:Now, I know that some will say "What about the person that never heard of Jesus?" and all I can respond, through faith, is that God said in the Bible that He has put the knowledge of Him and a persopns need for a Saviour in the heart of every living person and if a person acknowledges their sin and their need for a Saviour (which the Jews did before Jesus was born) then they are saved.

I know salvation is just great and all...

But I would never want to be 'saved' from my happiness

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(September 26, 2011 at 3:35 pm)Stucky Wrote: Okay, forget it. I tried but you tell me that anything I say is preaching. I dont belong here. Yes, I'm mad now. You wont even give me a chance. Like Jesus said, I am casting pearls to swine. Goodbye

Pearls are Oyster shell... which is kind of like your fingernails.

And pigs are among the noblest and most intelligent creatures on this planet.

So that sums up what you've been doing wonderfully: you've been chucking nail filings at people smarter than you

I gave you one chance, little pimple... such a shame you get mad over being an asshole. Must be a right wonderful life... turning some shade of puce every time you look in a mirror or get a whiff of your own bullshit

(September 26, 2011 at 6:01 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: But I would never want to be 'saved' from my happiness

Exactly. God is a complete and utter prick if he truly designed people to feel a certain way then punish them for simply being what they are.

@Stucky

Quote:I believe that the act of homosexual sex is a sin

I believe you believe that, so don't do it. Apart from that,mind your own business.

Quote:Now, I know that some will say "What about the person that never heard of Jesus?" and all I can respond, through faith, is that God said in the Bible that He has put the knowledge of Him and a persons need for a Saviour in the heart of every living person and if a person acknowledges their sin and their need for a Saviour (which the Jews did before Jesus was born) then they are saved.

Terrific! That means it you can mind your own business.



Only 2 years ago,a senior Catholic prelate in Australia declared atheists who live according to conscience will go to heaven.To be fair, I'm not entirely sure this is official church doctrine yet.

MY belief is that organised religion is one of the greatest confidence tricks ever perpetrated on the human race. That includes individual dickheads with the hubris to presume I need them to interpret sacred books or mediate on my behalf with the define. (if I believe in the divine,which I don't)

You have been rabbiting on about your beliefs.You want me to share your beliefs,beginning with the existence of God? NO PROBLEM,thrilled to do so---as soon as you show me some credible evidence.

IF you are unable to do so,please stop wasting my time and bugger off, taking your personal superstitions and petite- bourgeois morality with you..

(September 27, 2011 at 4:34 am)padraic Wrote: Only 2 years ago,a senior Catholic prelate in Australia declared atheists who live according to conscience will go to heaven.To be fair, I'm not entirely sure this is official church doctrine yet.

Well, the new testament is contradictory concerning who gets saved or damned. Either it is by faith (Paul) or works (Synoptic Gospels, particular of Matthew) or both (Letter of James). That contradictory mass forced Christians to develop tools such as exegesis and hermeneutics in order to create coherence doctrine, even the results aren't ideal.

I thought "stuckup" left??

Yeah he did. He's gone to cry and tell teacher on us because we asked him questions about his point of view.

I do find it rather amusing that when one asks a "religious" person questions regarding their "belief system" the majority are unable to cope. Then you get others who stick by their "belief system" with statements like "it works for me"

I think that I would have more regard for someone who says "yeah it seems illogical, but it works for me" than anyone who gets "offended" that their belief system gets questioned.

(September 26, 2011 at 5:30 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Sorry Stucky but I am VERY offended that you think a fellow human being deserves an eternity of torture just for not thinking the way you do. Go suck balls, I'll call your fake fairy tale man jebus as much as I fucking want.

Hi Napoleon. Where did I say anything about an eternity of torture? Are you putting words of yours into my mouth?

(September 27, 2011 at 9:12 am)Stucky Wrote:

(September 26, 2011 at 5:30 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Sorry Stucky but I am VERY offended that you think a fellow human being deserves an eternity of torture just for not thinking the way you do. Go suck balls, I'll call your fake fairy tale man jebus as much as I fucking want.

Hi Napoleon. Where did I say anything about an eternity of torture? Are you putting words of yours into my mouth?

No Nap isn't Stucky...YOUR OWN babble says so and you are using this tome to back your case ergo YOU are stating that people are going to be tortured for all eternity.

Stop trying to dodge your responsibilities.