(November 6, 2018 at 8:01 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Muslim men attacking a woman because she doesn't wear hijab





I just wonder why do they have batons in their hands since, according to Muslims on this forum, they are not allows to beat women? Maybe to scare her? But how are they going to scare her if she knows Koran forbids them to beat her?

I gotta love cheap short clips or blurry images with fat ass caption, just like ufo footage on youtube..
Why didn't you tell the people here that this video is from Saudi Arabia, where they beat the shit out of you if you go against the orders of goats with psychological problems like this asshole?

Probably they will chop you with a bonesaw too if you do that; I mean update your broken record; the story of Kashoggi -God have mercy on his soul- is the best evidence ..

But the one who exposed these assholes to the whole world is a Muslim man -Erdogan- and his Muslim-Turkish men. You see; the problem is in this hellish kingdom favored by the "Kuffar": it is us Muslims that exposed it to the whole world; it's Erdogan's good work that exposed them, but your cheap videos complicate matters even more because confusion, when stirred, generates more and more confusion.

Just like the UFO footage on youtube.

If you want to join the fight against the hellish kingdom responsible for generating such man; you can begin by respecting Muslim men -because some of us are like the Turkish president; righteous heroes-, learn how to tolerate us, then learn how to hate the guts of Saudi Arabia -and the disgusting plot that led to its creation-, try to convince other atheists about the atrocities of this regime, then distinguish between "Muslims" and "Wahhabies".

The asshole in this video is a Saudi and a Wahhabi. Let's not forget that. But how did that escape your caption??

That's a long list; but you'll get there. You get the picture; right?

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We are screaming for decades that Wahhabies and the Sauds are abusing us, raping our women and beat them, but the west and the kuffar love them so much ! please don't put Muslims on the same page with Wahhabies, it hurts the heart and the joints; just like a bonesaw working to cut...stuff..

And what do you do if you see a (Muslim) woman not wearing hijab? Congratulate her?

Why couldn't god dictate a book that was unequivocally, clearly, and undeniably against the beating of women? Why leave it up to interpretations and prone to translation errors? Surely god is capable of that.

(November 6, 2018 at 9:25 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Why couldn't god dictate a book that was unequivocally, clearly, and undeniably against the beating of women?  Why leave it up to interpretations and prone to translation errors?  Surely god is capable of that.

But he did, the Quran made it very clear -with explicit words- that:

Quote:https://quran.com/5/45?translations=20

Sahih International

Sura 5, The Quran:
(45) And We ordained for them therein a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, and for wounds is legal retribution. But whoever gives [up his right as] charity, it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

So did the woman in the video take any life, or any eye, or any nose, or any ear, or cause any wound ?
I think he went against his own holy book by threatening the woman with a weapon for unveiling her face.

The second verse needed is this:

Quote:https://quran.com/4/34?translations=


Sura 4, The Quran:
https://quran.com/4/34?translations=

Abul Ala Maududi(With tafsir)

(4:34) Men are the protec-tors and maintainers of women6 because Allah has made one of them excel over the other,7 and because they spend out of their possessions (to support them). Thus righteous women are obedient and guard the rights of men in their absence under Allah's protection.8 As for women of whom you fear rebellion, admonish them, and remain apart from them in beds, and beat them.9 Then if they obey you, do not seek ways to harm them. Allah is Exalted, Great.

The Quran is obvious. You don't get to hold a stick and threaten people with it; if our friend in the video tried to defend his action the two verses above will put him in a tight spot because it is obvious: what kind of rebellion and ill treatment did she do him? did she threaten him with a stick?

If the wife or the woman didn't satisfy the "eye for an eye" verse; how are we going to beat her?
The rebellion doesn't have 1 punishment, that means it is "coming in different forms". 3 actually; and they are mentioned in the verse above.

And if the rebellion is violent; the husband can also reply with violence or forgive.

I believe God was very clear. But this man has no justification for threatening a woman with a stick for unveiling her face.
Which is expected from the Wahhabi, Saudi religious institution. They read in reverse.

Yes, we know..we know, magic book gives domestic violence it's seal of approval.

(November 6, 2018 at 7:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Yes, we know..we know, magic book gives domestic violence it's seal of approval.

No no; it just orders women to give men their rights considering that men mostly are responsible for the economical part in a relationship, it tells women not to cheat on the husband when he's not present; then goes on to give the husband 3 rights which are:
1-Lecturing the rebellious wife
2-Abandoning the rebellious wife in bed
3-Beating the rebellious wife

It's assuming that both parties are already Muslims, and both parties already believe in the "eye for an eye" verse.

Feminism has no place in the Quran. It's a book from a real God, that gives women the treatment they deserve: the treatment of humans. They are human; not children as feminism tries to teach us.

There are many punishments in the Quran that involves men and women alike -like adultery-:

Quote:https://quran.com/24/2

Sahih International

Sura 24, The Quran:

(2) The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

So we know it's not really about gender.

-and again....yes...we know...magic book gives domestic violence it's seal of approval.

I'm not sure why you think that explaining this is going to make people feel like magic book and desert god are somehow less shitty than they were the moment before?

Beccs book of dealing with abusive partners.

1. Kick them in the balls when they try.
2. Leave them. No second chances.
3. Take them to court.

(November 6, 2018 at 8:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Beccs book of dealing with abusive partners.

1.  Kick them in the balls when they try.
2.  Leave them.  No second chances.
3.  Take them to court.

I'm totally with #2 as the most important one -aside from the "balls" kick which is very justified in so many times-.

(November 6, 2018 at 7:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Yes, we know..we know, magic book gives domestic violence it's seal of approval.

Beat them no harder than they can recover from within three days, as for slaves?

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(November 6, 2018 at 11:02 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(November 6, 2018 at 8:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Beccs book of dealing with abusive partners.

1.  Kick them in the balls when they try.
2.  Leave them.  No second chances.
3.  Take them to court.

I'm totally with #2 as the most important one -aside from the "balls" kick which is very justified in so many times-.

Of course the symbolic and cathartic value of #1 shouldn't be underestimated.