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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:45 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 6:35 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: "Neither the religious man nor the secularist can explain, that is justify, such suffering ... but only the religious man needs to do so. The secularist understands that suffering is not something to be justified but simply to be struggled against with courage and dignity."
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But you missed my overall point before. The only reason I brought up suffering was to counter your argument that the joy and beauty in life indicates a designer. Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.
So then starving children in third word countries don't exist to you? Famine and disease are just imaginations?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:46 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 6:42 pm)Kit Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Everena Wrote: Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.
Refusing to believe in a godless universe doesn't make it untrue. 
Some people get more endorphins released by sticking their head in the sand and making up stuff so things "come out" the way they need it to.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:51 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 6:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Everena Wrote: Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.
Are you at all comfortable with the reality that you live in a pitilessly indifferent universe?
Boru
I don't agree with that at all. A universe that just magically appears out of nothing, without an intelligent driving force, with no purpose and for no reason, so we can all live unequally for short periods of time and then die and go nowhere does not make any sense to me and it never will.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:53 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 6:51 pm)Everena Wrote: I don't agree with that at all. A universe that just magically appears out of nothing, without an intelligent driving force, with no purpose and for no reason, so we can all live unequally for short periods of time and then die and go nowhere does not make any sense to me and it never will.
Latin and Physics don't make sense to me, but it doesn't mean I refuse to believe that they exist. The same goes for a godless universe; acceptance of the harsh truth is preferable over the comfortable god lie.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:54 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 6:51 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 6:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Are you at all comfortable with the reality that you live in a pitilessly indifferent universe?
Boru
I don't agree with that at all. A universe that just magically appears out of nothing, without an intelligent driving force, with no purpose and for no reason, so we can all live unequally for short periods of time and then die and go nowhere does not make any sense to me and it never will.
Yet "goddidit" does?
Fascinating. Does it hurt when you breathe?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:54 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 6:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Everena Wrote: Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.
We already know it is not ... and you don't get to make up shit to make yourself feel all nice.
Get over it. There is no Santa Claus.
So you admit your beliefs are based on an emotional need.
Actually the universe could easily be "fair' from many perspectives, without the nonsense of belief.
There is no way a 6 year old, dying of cancer can see anything fair, in any direction, about the universe AND your gods are of no help.
You live in a "happy bubble". Time to get out more. A six year old dying of cancer could be here to teach important lessons of compassion, kindness and empathy. And there is no real death when you believe in eternal life.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:55 pm
And more unreasonable apologetics.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:57 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 6:54 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 6:42 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: We already know it is not ... and you don't get to make up shit to make yourself feel all nice.
Get over it. There is no Santa Claus.
So you admit your beliefs are based on an emotional need.
Actually the universe could easily be "fair' from many perspectives, without the nonsense of belief.
There is no way a 6 year old, dying of cancer can see anything fair, in any direction, about the universe AND your gods are of no help.
You live in a "happy bubble". Time to get out more. A six year old dying of cancer could be here to teach important lessons of compassion, kindness and empathy. And there is no real death when you believe in eternal life.
And there's no empty skies when you believe in fairies and rainbow farting unicorns.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:57 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 6:45 pm)Joods Wrote: (November 11, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Everena Wrote: Be that as it may, my beliefs are the only ones that would make this a fair and just universe and I refuse to believe that I live in a cruel unfair universe.
So then starving children in third word countries don't exist to you? Famine and disease are just imaginations? As I said, I think this is "hell" or karma, playing itself out right in front our very eyes. And starving children could be souls who have come to teach us important lessons about generosity and compassion and kindness and empathy.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 6:58 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2018 at 7:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You believe many things, so far..what you believe has been, for the majority, demonstrably false...and for the remainder..silly and dishonest...and just so I don't miss anything, hilariously ignorant.
I officially don't give a shit about what you believe. You're a stupid lying asshole. Good job.
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