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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 14, 2018 at 8:22 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(November 14, 2018 at 8:18 pm)Astreja Wrote: AFAIK the only way to deal with a narcissist is to cut off their attention supply.

I propose something radical:  That we just talk about DNA, in strictly scientific terms (a round of peer-reviewed studies for the house, barkeep!) and put both Everena and CDF on ignore.

(And perhaps split the thread somewhere around here into Part 1 and Part 2, and send Part 1 to Rl'yeh?)
Good idea let's see if the mods agree .

Could you put in the request, please?  I have to grab my clarinet and head out to rehearsal.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 14, 2018 at 7:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(November 14, 2018 at 7:46 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: No, you have nothing but plants and germs, just as I said before.
Not only is this untrue, it wouldn;t matter if it were..since it would still be multiple observed instances of speciation, which is what you contended we did not have, what you asked for, and what you received.

Most people bitch a whole lot less when they get what they want.   What most people do is important to you...right?

Quote:Everena: Nope, not tiny. Hundreds of millions of differences that we have disconvered so far.
-again..a large number in a sea of even larger numbers just isn't that big.  You are a great ape.  The other great apes are your closest surviving relatives on this meat grinding rock.    

Quote:Everena: I'm gonna go with no comment on that one.
You should have gone with no comment from the outset, lol.  It would have been an improvement.  As it stands, there is literally no part of any of your beliefs about gods, the universe, or evolutionary biology which aren't at odds with themselves...and your response for this is that you have no response.



Quote:Everena: Believe whatever you want to believe. The truth will remain the same.
As has been made painstakingly aware to you in this thread, yes.  

Quote:Everena: Plants are not conscious and paramecium appear to be conscious.
You might want to look into that one again.

Quote:Everena: They do appear to be conscious life. Read about them. Are they definitely consciuos? We don't know but they are more conscious than plants.


Too bad, you had a very specific list, paramecium fail to meet those standards, your own standards.  They now serve as yet another example of senseless waffling on every portion of your fact-free worldview.

Line by line, Ev.  Day in, day out.  Meat fairy may have made me specifically to improve the souls of shitters like you.  It's worth considering.  I'm so well skin suited...that I can even format your garbage -and- respond faster than you can come up with some new stupid thing to say poorly.
Everena: I am not a plant and nowhere in the theory of evol does it show us with a common ancestor of plants so.... I know you are just acting like an ass because you have no valid arguments against the existence of God. and you have only plants and a germ to support the part of the theory of evol that you are apparently so so very in love with. Why don't you take one of your boner pills and go stare in the mirror and think about how beautiul you are to yourself, or think about a plant. Meanwhile, atheism fails and you are clinging to it for no good reason other than to pretend you will never be held accountable for anything you do. Well, live your lives as you please. Now you can't say you weren't repeatedly warned and shown simple logic to figure this all out.  Angel
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Just put Everena on ignore . But i'll keep  CDF open as i don't find him all that bad .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 14, 2018 at 7:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(November 14, 2018 at 7:34 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Oh sweetie, are you sad that I am right again and you are wrong again? Why don't you go snuggle up with a plant and maybe you'll feel better.



Everena: I did already stated it earlier, before anyone posted anything. All they have is some plants and germs. Sorry, not convinced.

So...demonstrating that speciation occurs isn’t enough to convince you that speciation can occur, lol?  That’s weird.

Everena: Not when it's occuring in plants. I am not a plant and nowhere in the theory of evol does it show us with a common ancestor of plants so.....
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 14, 2018 at 8:24 pm)Astreja Wrote:
(November 14, 2018 at 8:22 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Good idea let's see if the mods agree .

Could you put in the request, please?  I have to grab my clarinet and head out to rehearsal.
Sure  Cool
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 14, 2018 at 8:24 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: I know you are just acting like an ass because you have no valid arguments against the existence of God. and you have only plants and a germ to support the part of the theory of evol that you are apparently so so very in love with.
Why would I require an argument against gods, and why would that have any relevance to my providing you with the direct observations of speciation events?

Quote:Why don't you take one of your boner pills and go stare in the mirror and think about how beautiul you are to yourself, or think about a plant. Meanwhile, atheism fails and you are clinging to it for no good reason other than to pretend you will never be held accountable for anything you do.
Nothing to do with atheism.  

Quote:Well, live your lives as you please. Now you can't say you weren't repeatedly warned and shown simple logic to figure this all out.  Angel
Warned?  Warned about what....lol?

(November 14, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Not when it's occuring in plants. I am not a plant and nowhere in the theory of evol does it show us with a common ancestor of plants so.....
Speciation isn't speciation when plants are speciating?  Sure..sounds legit.

In point of fact, evolutionary biology does contend that we have a common ancestor with plants. 1.6 billion years ago, protists..neither plant nor animal.  You're welcome.
For what it's worth, it seems like I'm too late to bring up this point about his OP: Whether or not it's possible if something can come from nothing, it's clear that God, if he exists, definitely violates that principle: After all, what is the creation of the world but his creating something out of nothing?


-Rev Rye.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 14, 2018 at 7:25 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:Everena: No, that was a friggin plant, not a species with conscious life.
So more goalpost shifting
Everena: I am not goalpost shifting and I said from the get go that I was not convinced by plants and a germ.

Everena: I am not a plant and nowhere in the theory of evol does it show us with a common ancestor of plants so.....

(November 14, 2018 at 7:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(November 14, 2018 at 7:46 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: No, you have nothing but plants and germs, just as I said before.
Not only is this untrue, it wouldn;t matter if it were..since it would still be multiple observed instances of speciation, which is what you contended we did not have, what you asked for, and what you received.

Most people bitch a whole lot less when they get what they want.   What most people do is important to you...right?

Quote:Everena: Nope, not tiny. Hundreds of millions of differences that we have disconvered so far.
-again..a large number in a sea of even larger numbers just isn't that big.  You are a great ape.  The other great apes are your closest surviving relatives on this meat grinding rock.    

Quote:Everena: I'm gonna go with no comment on that one.
You should have gone with no comment from the outset, lol.  It would have been an improvement.  As it stands, there is literally no part of any of your beliefs about gods, the universe, or evolutionary biology which aren't at odds with themselves...and your response for this is that you have no response.



Quote:Everena: Believe whatever you want to believe. The truth will remain the same.
As has been made painstakingly aware to you in this thread, yes.  

Quote:Everena: Plants are not conscious and paramecium appear to be conscious.
You might want to look into that one again.

Quote:Everena: They do appear to be conscious life. Read about them. Are they definitely consciuos? We don't know but they are more conscious than plants.


Too bad, you had a very specific list, paramecium fail to meet those standards, your own standards.  They now serve as yet another example of senseless waffling on every portion of your fact-free worldview.

Line by line, Ev.  Day in, day out.  Meat fairy may have made me specifically to improve the souls of shitters like you.  It's worth considering.  I'm so well skin suited...that I can even format your garbage -and- respond faster than you can come up with some new stupid thing to say poorly.  Can't have happened by chance, no way to write it off as luck.

Everena:. I am not a plant and nowhere in the theory of evol does it show us with a common ancestor of plants so.....
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
No, you aren't a plant, but you do have an lca with them.
For what it's worth, it seems like I'm too late to bring up this point about his OP: Whether or not it's possible if something can come from nothing, it's clear that God, if he exists, definitely violates that principle: After all, what is the creation of the world but his creating something out of nothing?


-Rev Rye.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 14, 2018 at 8:33 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(November 14, 2018 at 8:24 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: I know you are just acting like an ass because you have no valid arguments against the existence of God. and you have only plants and a germ to support the part of the theory of evol that you are apparently so so very in love with.
Why would I require an argument against gods, and why would that have any relevance to my providing you with the direct observations of speciation events?
Everena: If you're willing to stake your life on it, you should have a good argument or some proof to back it up at least. You have nothing. Not even a shred of evidence that disproves God.


Quote:Why don't you take one of your boner pills and go stare in the mirror and think about how beautiul you are to yourself, or think about a plant. Meanwhile, atheism fails and you are clinging to it for no good reason other than to pretend you will never be held accountable for anything you do.Noting to do with atheism.  

Quote:Well, live your lives as you please. Now you can't say you weren't repeatedly warned and shown simple logic to figure this all out.  Angel
Warned?  Warned about what....lol?
Everena: Warned that you most likely will be held accountable for all your actions. 


(November 14, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: Not when it's occuring in plants. I am not a plant and nowhere in the theory of evol does it show us with a common ancestor of plants so.....
Speciation isn't speciation when plants are speciating?  Sure..sounds legit.

In point of fact, evolutionary biology does contend that we have a common ancestor with plants. 1.6 billion years ago, protists..neither plant nor animal.  You're welcome.
Everena: Total rubbish. They are not plants, but make up any crap you want to fit into your fairy tale that you think could occur without  intelligence. Keep telling your self that this entire universe just magically appeared for no reason and with no purpose and without any intelligence so we could all live unequally for short periods of time and then die and go nowhere. If that makes sense to you, then fine. 

(November 14, 2018 at 8:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, you aren't a plant, but you do have an lca with them.
Everena: No I sure don't. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(November 14, 2018 at 8:27 pm)Everena Wrote:
(November 14, 2018 at 7:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: So...demonstrating that speciation occurs isn’t enough to convince you that speciation can occur, lol?  That’s weird.

Everena: Not when it's occuring in plants. I am not a plant and nowhere in the theory of evol does it show us with a common ancestor of plants so.....

Lol,wut? Please explain why speciation can occur within some life forms but not others.  Citations please.  I’ll get my popcorn.

(November 14, 2018 at 8:25 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Just put Everena on ignore . But i'll keep  CDF open as i don't find him all that bad .

I think they’re the same person.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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