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RE: DNA Disproves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:13 pm
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(November 17, 2018 at 2:02 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 1:34 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: False. The A answers are just explanations that science has discovered about how higher intelligence is doing all this.
Except science hasn't discovered any higher intelligence and none of those answers make sense if you infer one.
Take the sun for example. It's a nuclear fusion reaction dynamically balanced on by its own gravitational attraction. It terrifyingly radioactive, dangerously unstable, and doomed to explode and kill us all sooner or later. Is this truly the mechanism that a competent Creator uses to illuminate the pinnacle of its creation?
Doomed to explode... ok well not for over 2 billion years, so I am not too concerned about that right this minute for some reason. And yes, the sun is a creation of God without doubt. We would all be dead without the sun and without the moon and without about a million other things.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:19 pm
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Quote:On your deathbed you will though. It's amazing how atheists turn into believers as they age.
Ah yes, the OLD "there are no atheists in foxholes' bullshit.
They HAVE no evidence to support their assertions, so they resort to the threats. "Believe, or you'll be sorry". LMAO
You have no evidence, neither can you produce any for either of those two lies.
You are a liar, sweetie. A damn liar. I see religion has done a lot for you ... making you into a hate-filled liar.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:19 pm
(November 17, 2018 at 2:11 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm not aware of any evidence indicating that human beings die when they reach some unspecified level of certainty in any given thing. That would be a serious design flaw, if it were so..given our propensity to certitude. Here ya go:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...nd-europe/
http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landsc...tribution/
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:21 pm
Ev - you are a vile human being. On your deathbed, you will come to realize that you're not going to be alive anymore. You'll realize that there is no heaven waiting for you.
You'll never see your loved ones again. You'll remember these words and you'll be terrified and regretful that you could have been a nicer human being but chose not to be.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:25 pm
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(November 17, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Everena
Quote:On your deathbed you will though. It's amazing how atheists turn into believers as they age.
Ah yes, the OLD "there are no atheists in foxholes' bullshit.
They HAVE no evidence to support their assertions, so they resort to the threats. "Believe, or you'll be sorry". LMAO
You have no evidence, neither can you produce any for either of those two lies.
You are a liar, sweetie. A damn liar. I see religion has done a lot for you ... making you into a hate-filled liar.
Everena: I am not hate filled. That would be you. I am also not Christian for like the 3rd time and I do not think you will burn in hell for all eternity, although the thought of that becomes more desirable with every sexist, condescending post you make to me. I think all religions are man made and the only pain you will ever suffer is the pain you have intentionally caused to others. And that's whether you believe in God or not. I don't think God really cares if you believe or not. Just be a good person for the sake of being one and see what happens. That would be my only advice besides to make sure you are really with your soulmate/other half, because I do think the importance of that cannot be understated.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:28 pm
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(November 17, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 2:11 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm not aware of any evidence indicating that human beings die when they reach some unspecified level of certainty in any given thing. That would be a serious design flaw, if it were so..given our propensity to certitude. Here ya go:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...nd-europe/
http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landsc...tribution/
More empty links, lol. Kindly quote the portion of either which substantiates the notion that people die when they reach some as yet unspecified level of certitude.
Or, you know...don't..because neither does, and you're just being pointlessly dishonest.... again.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:29 pm
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(November 17, 2018 at 1:54 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: Ev - Would you say that your own ability to not understand how chemistry works, how gravity works, how much of science operates, how evolution changes DNA over time, is the biggest contributor to your belief in a VASTLY more complex entity that creates things you don't understand ?
Since this vastly more complex entity you believe exists, doesn't it also need a creator ?
It couldn't have come about by any natural means.
Isn't that the line you've been drawing ? "This is SO complex that is MUST have a designer."
We humans design things. We are designers.
You are literally saying that designers are so complex that they must have a designer.
You say this because you don't understand natural processes.
You don't understand how chemistry works.
You don't understand natural physical laws.
You want to appeal to something that is MORE complex than the things you already DON'T UNDERSTAND.
Which explains very clearly why you meet the definition of an idiot. I understand how all of it works. That does not mean it all just magically appeared without intelligence and in fact it means just the opposite. Learn to use logic.
(November 17, 2018 at 2:28 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Everena Wrote: Here ya go:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...nd-europe/
http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landsc...tribution/
More empty links, lol. Kindly quote the portion of either which substantiates the notion that people die when they reach some as yet unspecified level of certitude. They are charts that show how peoples belief increases as they age. And the other one is explained right in the title included in the link.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:32 pm
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(November 17, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 2:28 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: More empty links, lol. Kindly quote the portion of either which substantiates the notion that people die when they reach some as yet unspecified level of certitude. They are charts that show how peoples belief increases as they age. And the other one is explained right in the title included in the link. So? Neither substantiates the claim you made...neither even approaches the claim. Try again.
I'll note, again, however..that if that claim were true..that would be a glaring design flaw.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:33 pm
(November 17, 2018 at 2:21 pm)Rahn127 Wrote: Ev - you are a vile human being. On your deathbed, you will come to realize that you're not going to be alive anymore. You'll realize that there is no heaven waiting for you.
You'll never see your loved ones again. You'll remember these words and you'll be terrified and regretful that you could have been a nicer human being but chose not to be.
*yawn* Sounds like a nice ficticious bedtime story for kids. I know God exists. You lose.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 17, 2018 at 2:37 pm
(November 17, 2018 at 1:55 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 17, 2018 at 1:31 pm)Everena Wrote: 2. What amazing things??? Are you kidding??This entire planet with food and other pleasures and all conscious intelligent life with an enormous amount of abilities that I guess you just take for granted, but that could not have just magically happened from nothing for no reason no matter how many times you pretend it all could. Use your brain.
(2) I am using my brain thank you very much. Kindly observe: "This entire planet" is:
- A nickel-iron core that you will never interact with chemically.
- A silicate mantle and crust that you will only ever interact with in the most trivial manner, largely toxic ones.
- Entire oceans to saline to drink.
- An atmosphere composed of element that are either inert or toxic. Yes, oxygen is toxic and your body spends a vast amount of energy and resources to keep the wretched stuff from killing you. Still sound like intelligent design?
Now that we've discarded 99.999% of the planet, we can examine the vanishingly small fraction that you call amazing. Most of which will try to eat, poison, infect, or parasitize you.
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