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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 10:59 am
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 11:01 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Provide evidence for "fine tuning". Evolution is a non-random but un-directed process. If you wish to assert otherwise, provide evidence of your tinkering God (or show the moment that he tinkered). Claiming that our intelligence is somehow a hindrance is almost beyond ignorance. This statement is at odds with reality on obvious and fundamental levels. Of course, one can make a quick guess as to exactly where you got the idea that intelligence is somehow detrimental to us, couldn't one.
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 10:59 am
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 11:09 am by Jesuslovesyou.)
(September 28, 2011 at 10:47 am)Ace Otana Wrote: Uh-huh. There's around 500 million life capable planets in our galaxy alone, and there are around 120 galaxies spotted so far, though there may be over 10 trillion since we've only glanced a tiny fraction of space. All of a sudden we don't seem to special anymore.
I didn't say Earth was the only planet capable of supporting life, I said we live in the only universe capable of supporting life. A universe created by God with laws supporting the existence of life.
Maybe you should make sure you understand a post before replying, you do make yourself look silly!
(September 28, 2011 at 10:49 am)frankiej Wrote: I think I'm going to kill myself now... These guys are really annoying me.
It's OK to be scared of change. I 'annoy' you because I intrude into your microcosm of ignorance.
(September 28, 2011 at 10:59 am)Rhythm Wrote: Provide evidence for "fine tuning".
You know I can't provide tangible evidence, we agreed that.
(September 28, 2011 at 10:59 am)Rhythm Wrote: Evolution is a non-random but un-directed process. If you wish to assert otherwise, provide evidence of your tinkering God (or show the moment that he tinkered).
My evidence is that we have evolved in the first place, the process is itself divine.
(September 28, 2011 at 10:59 am)Rhythm Wrote: Claiming that our intelligence is somehow a hindrance is almost beyond ignorance. This statement is at odds with reality on obvious and fundamental levels. Of course, one can make a quick guess as to exactly where you got the idea that intelligence is somehow detrimental to us, couldn't one.
Prove that it isn't a hindrance.
If it isn't, why haven't all animals developed the ability to speak, write, drive cars etc?
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 11:02 am
Evidence for a creator god that set the laws the support our existence?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 11:08 am
(September 28, 2011 at 10:56 am)Jaysyn Wrote: He's a Poe. I don't think anyone could be that willfully stupid & still use a computer.
Then you have nothing to fear from engaging in dialog with me. Prove me wrong.
(September 28, 2011 at 11:02 am)Rhythm Wrote: Evidence for a creator god that set the laws the support our existence?
I have none, as you have none that there was no creator.
However I argue that until we know the very essence of 'the big bang' we can assume that it's origin was divine - how else did an atom containing the universe get there? All scientific explanations are insufficient. God exists within and beyond the universe, only he could create it.
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 11:09 am
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Oh, you have none, excellent, the conversation is over then isn't it? Taking your advice, I'm going to go ahead and propose potted meat products be assumed all powerful until we have totality of knowledge. Thanks for your contribution.
( I even have evidence that they exist, so that's canned meat as creator 1, god 0 )
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 11:12 am
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(September 28, 2011 at 10:59 am)Jesuslovesyou Wrote: I didn't say Earth was the only planet capable of supporting life, I said we live in the only universe capable of supporting life. A universe created by God with laws supporting the existence of life.
I look silly? Take a look in the mirror. So far you've made a complete prat of yourself.
Also, why does it have to be a god?
Quote:A universe created by God with laws supporting the existence of life.
Prove it.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 11:16 am
(September 28, 2011 at 10:59 am)Jesuslovesyou Wrote: (September 28, 2011 at 10:49 am)frankiej Wrote: I think I'm going to kill myself now... These guys are really annoying me.
It's OK to be scared of change. I 'annoy' you because I intrude into your microcosm of ignorance.
No, your idiocy scares me. When people like you have children it makes me worry about the future.
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 11:16 am
(September 28, 2011 at 11:09 am)Rhythm Wrote: Oh, you have none, excellent, the conversation is over then isn't it? Taking your advice, I'm going to go ahead and propose that Vienna Sausages be assumed as all powerful until we have totality of knowledge. Thanks for your contribution.
You fail to understand the purpose of our conversation.
We agreed that there could never be 100% certainty regarding the existence of God(s).
I have provided you with arguments supporting the assumption that God(s) exist and are responsible for our universe.
Like typical atheist cowards you have not challenged any of my ideas, instead resorting to ad hominem attacks and undermining the discussion with humor.
Admit it, you don't really want to know the truth because it involves challenging you beliefs. This forum is about making fun of religious nutballs not discussing the existence of God(s).
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 11:17 am
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Your arguments have been weighed and found wanting. If you want to challenge our (non)beliefs -fixed that for you- you'll need to start providing something that isn't such obvious garbage.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Greetings Atheists
September 28, 2011 at 11:19 am
(September 28, 2011 at 11:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: Your arguments have been weighed and found wanting.
Explain.
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