(November 25, 2018 at 4:22 am)Amarok Wrote: So she repeats is the same errors

FTFY.

(November 24, 2018 at 6:02 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 24, 2018 at 5:41 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Yeah you have. You *claim* the theory is that consciousness is "received" and that the links provided, "partially prove" that. 
In fact they never even mention "received", (much less name a *sender*). Everything about you is fake.

BTW, you keep talking about logic, as if it were something you knew about. 
Here is a list of 30 logics. Please tell us which one you employ, why it is applicable to what you are saying and why you follow this particular logic ... and demonstrate that the one you chose, .. obtains, in reality. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:S...rmal_logic

Nope. I never said any of that. And I linked you a youtube video where Hameroff discusses the receiver theory. You just pay no attention to what someone is actually saying.

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(November 24, 2018 at 5:50 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: The DK with Everena is hilarious. The very notion that a moron who cannot figure out the quote function could somehow understand neuroscience or quantum mechanics is a special kind of stupid which appears to be exclusive to god botherers.

Also, the crank notion that evolution is somehow responsible for cosmology in general is likewise the preserve of a particular brand of breathless believer.

I may have to restock the popcorn.

I understand the quote function. I have used it several times. I just don't use it every time. And your side already lost the argument. No need for more popcorn.

Still haven't mastered the flounce, I see.

You are a caricature of religious mania. You are much like Harold Camping so convinced are you of your being right. In fact, you are no different than any of the religious fanatics who are convinced that they alone are right.

Quote: And your side already lost the argument. 

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Quote:Nope. I never said any of that. And I linked you a youtube video where Hameroff discusses the receiver theory. You just pay no attention to what someone is actually saying.

Actually she did and that video is garbage

Quote:Actually she did and that video is garbage

And the sender is ? 
It's a piece of shit non-theory, and no one takes it seriously.
Could she even begin to discuss it in her own words ? No.




LMFAO

(November 24, 2018 at 8:52 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 24, 2018 at 8:07 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: . . . . . .

I've given you all this information already. If you have chosen to ignore it, that is your problem. I'm done.

Nooooooo!  Don't go!  We only have 118 pages to go to make an even 1,000!

Quote:I've given you all this information already. If you have chosen to ignore it, that is your problem. I'm done

(November 24, 2018 at 10:57 pm)Everena Wrote:

(November 24, 2018 at 10:48 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Prove it.

It is in the article I just responded with on the page I responded on. It is proven. Here it is again lazy

Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception, as the brain was considered too "warm, wet, and noisy" for seemingly delicate quantum processes.. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules. The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair's theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases consciousness while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons.  https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...085105.htm

[emphasis mine]

You really don't read the shit you post. This says, exactly as paleophyte claimed, that the idea criticized was the idea that sustained quantum coherence could occur, not that quantum vibrations did occur. This says nothing about quantum vibrations qua quantum vibrations.

(November 25, 2018 at 10:35 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 24, 2018 at 10:57 pm)Everena Wrote: It is in the article I just responded with on the page I responded on. It is proven. Here it is again lazy

Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception, as the brain was considered too "warm, wet, and noisy" for seemingly delicate quantum processes.. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules. The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair's theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases consciousness while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons.  https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...085105.htm

[emphasis mine]

You really don't read the shit you post.  This says, exactly as paleophyte claimed, that the idea criticized was the idea that sustained quantum coherence could occur, not that quantum vibrations did occur.  This says nothing about quantum vibrations qua quantum vibrations.

Not what he said. Re-read the post. He was wrong (about every single thing)

Quote:Not what he said. Re-read the post. He was wrong (about every single thing)

LOL
Could you be just a tad more specific, sweetie. 

(November 25, 2018 at 11:06 am)Everena Wrote:

(November 25, 2018 at 10:35 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(November 24, 2018 at 10:57 pm)Everena Wrote: It is in the article I just responded with on the page I responded on. It is proven. Here it is again lazy

Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception, as the brain was considered too "warm, wet, and noisy" for seemingly delicate quantum processes.. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules. The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair's theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases consciousness while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons.  https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...085105.htm

[emphasis mine]

You really don't read the shit you post.  This says, exactly as paleophyte claimed, that the idea criticized was the idea that sustained quantum coherence could occur, not that quantum vibrations did occur.  This says nothing about quantum vibrations qua quantum vibrations.

Not what he said. Re-read the post. He was wrong (about every single thing)

I did read what he and you said, quoted below, and everything is as I have claimed.

(November 24, 2018 at 10:40 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 24, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Everena Wrote: and Penrose and Hameroff proved them all wrong. And no one knew there were quantum vibrations in our brain until 2014

Quantum vibrations are in everything, up to and including a theoretical perfect vacuum. That is literally the definition of zero point energy. If this were any less newsworthy it would have come out of the southern end of a north-bound bull.

(November 24, 2018 at 10:48 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(November 24, 2018 at 10:45 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: False. No one knew quantum vibrations were occuring in the brain until late 2013/early 2014.

Prove it.