(December 9, 2018 at 12:33 am)Amarok Wrote:

Quote:Wrong, I learned a great deal from listening to him speak

You clearly learned nothing

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Quote:Do you ? LMAO
Am I writing shit, totally out of the scientific consensus ? 

You are a fucking fraud, gramps.
You wouldn't know an actual argument if it bit you on your fat ass.

I'm sure everyone is a "fraud" to you when they ask you a direct question and you don't want to answer.   But it's cool.  When people are uptight, it comes back around.  Seen it happen enough times.  Someone is a "warrior" in their mind, but life still beats them down.  The lucky ones eventually realize it's not everybody else who's the problem.  The unlucky ones, well...they call names and wield other insults hoping it will somehow validate them.  Anyway, good luck with it.

Quote:Or they see through the questioner

You should watch his videos and debates.  You might learn something.

(December 9, 2018 at 12:52 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 9, 2018 at 12:33 am)Amarok Wrote: You clearly learned nothing

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I'm sure everyone is a "fraud" to you when they ask you a direct question and you don't want to answer.   But it's cool.  When people are uptight, it comes back around.  Seen it happen enough times.  Someone is a "warrior" in their mind, but life still beats them down.  The lucky ones eventually realize it's not everybody else who's the problem.  The unlucky ones, well...they call names and wield other insults hoping it will somehow validate them.  Anyway, good luck with it.

Quote:Or they see through the questioner

You should watch his videos and debates.  You might learn something.

I have he sucks

(December 9, 2018 at 1:05 am)Amarok Wrote:

(December 9, 2018 at 12:52 am)CDF47 Wrote: You should watch his videos and debates.  You might learn something.

I have he sucks

If you truly have then you wouldn't think he sucks.  He wins every debate he is in hands down.

(December 9, 2018 at 1:12 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 9, 2018 at 1:05 am)Amarok Wrote: I have he sucks

If you truly have then you wouldn't think he sucks.  He wins every debate he is in hands down.

I have and he loses on facts every time

At work.

(December 9, 2018 at 1:12 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 9, 2018 at 1:05 am)Amarok Wrote: I have he sucks

If you truly have then you wouldn't think he sucks.  He wins every debate he is in hands down.

Hahahaha! That needs the James Johnah Jameson gif to accompany the laughter for that post.

Please, oh dispenser of wisdom, offer up some Googltube links that we may partake of Mr Meyer or Mr Dembski's amazing wisdom.

(December 9, 2018 at 3:00 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(December 9, 2018 at 1:12 am)CDF47 Wrote: If you truly have then you wouldn't think he sucks.  He wins every debate he is in hands down.

Hahahaha! That needs the James Johnah Jameson gif to accompany the laughter for that post.

Please, oh dispenser of wisdom, offer up some Googltube links that we may partake of Mr Meyer or Mr Dembski's amazing wisdom.

Request granted 


And a retro version for a bonus

(December 8, 2018 at 10:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(December 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Amarok Wrote: Yes he is a fool credentials don't change that

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Which is as worthless as nothing

Wrong, I learned a great deal from listening to him speak.

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(December 8, 2018 at 12:07 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Waitaminute.  Are you saying you haven't read Signature In The Cell?

I have heard it summarized.  I never read the book.

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(December 8, 2018 at 10:10 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Of course he isn't. He is highly skilled at extracting money from gullible rubes.

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In that case you must perforce also believe that the moon landings were faked, right?

After all, that is the claim of Prof. James H. Fetzer who also holds a PhD in the philosophy of science.

No, actually I believe we landed on the moon. I believe in real conspiracies like CIA MK Ultra, FBI Cointelpro,...

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(December 8, 2018 at 10:35 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: So let me get this straight ... if a PhD from Cambridge says there is no god, (Steven Hawking) then you accept what he says. 
LOL

Too bad Meyer's credentials are in the wrong fields. 

"Meyer has absolutely no qualifications in biology. he does hold a Bachelor of Science in geology and physics, but his Ph.D is in the philosophy of science[2] which has no relevance to Evolutionary Biology"

He has biologists and geneticists on his team.

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(December 8, 2018 at 10:49 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Interesting. Do you have a degree in evolutionary biology?  How about a PhD?

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I was addressing you.  We're applying mathematics.  If you don't like the math, math don't care.  Got it?

Your statement, "You don't sound like you have one."  Please qualify. At what point is my statement did you determine that the opposite is likely true?  Can't wait to hear this.

Nope, not philosophy.  Although I did study philosophy, but not as to pursue a degree specifically in that field.  Also for leisure.  If I tried to get a degree from every branch of science that interests me, I would spend a dozen lifetimes in school.

No, I have a Bachelors of Science in Mechanical Engineering.  I would go back to get a Masters but I am on disability now after 15 years in the field and 5 years at the university.

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(December 8, 2018 at 11:17 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Ohhh, they just simply don’t.  I see; it all makes sense now!  Thank you so much for elucidating that particular biological mechanism of action for me.  I think I’m one step closer to becoming a Christian!  You’re good at this! 😐

LOL

Still bullshitting. Well, I suppose everybody needs a hobby, Mr Inquisition.

(December 9, 2018 at 5:41 am)Wololo Wrote:

(December 8, 2018 at 10:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Wrong, I learned a great deal from listening to him speak.

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I have heard it summarized.  I never read the book.

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No, actually I believe we landed on the moon. I believe in real conspiracies like CIA MK Ultra, FBI Cointelpro,...

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He has biologists and geneticists on his team.

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No, I have a Bachelors of Science in Mechanical Engineering.  I would go back to get a Masters but I am on disability now after 15 years in the field and 5 years at the university.

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LOL

Still bullshitting.  Well, I suppose everybody needs a hobby, Mr Inquisition.

You're not my hobby. Maybe some mild entertainment.  You're like thousands of other Internet warriors whose nonsense gets boring after a few minutes, especially once you realize they actually believe their own nonsense.

(December 9, 2018 at 9:20 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 9, 2018 at 5:41 am)Wololo Wrote: Still bullshitting.  Well, I suppose everybody needs a hobby, Mr Inquisition.

You're not my hobby.

Wasn't talking to you, idiot. But then again, you're the kind of dumb luder who thinks everything is about you, who thinks you know everything despite knowing sweet Fanny Adams and who thinks that when they look in the mirror they see everybody else.

My guess is you're 13 and you've either read Atlas Shrugged for the first time, or you're being homeschooled by a YEC mother who thinks long-division is PhD level mathematics. You've neither the intelligence nor the experience to be any older.

(December 8, 2018 at 7:24 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I think that was kinda the point of the Matrix. Mesh a lot of things together to give a different perception of reality.

I'd say it was to make people think about their reality.
Is our reality real or virtual?

(December 8, 2018 at 7:24 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Some of it is also similar to the Infinity Wars movie. You have one being's view on reality becoming the determining factor for everybody else. 

Well... that one being supposedly knew something that no one else knew and acted towards avoiding it.
Knowing the future is always a tricky proposition and, like Spock said, there are always possibilities... Perhaps the course of action that we see in the movies isn't the optimal one.
It certainly wasn't the most moral, the one resulting in the least suffering.

(December 8, 2018 at 7:24 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: In his mind, maybe he's doing a good thing. Eliminate half the population and once again the resources in the universe become sufficient.  It's random, so he determines it to be fair.

Fair and random... but what if he's wrong?
What if there are enough resources in the Universe for all the sentient population?
I mean, in that movie's universe, there is something we call magic. Magic is real! Gods like Thor are real! Just generate more resources.

(December 8, 2018 at 7:24 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Of course maybe the will to live with limited resources supersedes his view, so there has to be an opposition.

A superhero movie must have a villain. Villains, nowadays, cannot just be pure evil, so they must have some motivation. As faulty or skewed as it may be, there is a motivation, we get a story, lots of special effects, we pay tickets. Real money in exchange for a fictional story.

(December 8, 2018 at 7:24 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Both movies have a moral dilemma that has to be dealt with, with the heroes in both choosing the reality that is natural rather than the one determined (Live in the real world outside the Matrix + Allow the world to exist as-is, even though the conditions could be made better by reducing the population).

Isn't the natural reality preferable by the majority of people?
If so, then the heroes are simply fighting to uphold the moral law - do the most good for the most people.