Nope..and, frankly, that's horrendous advice.  No slack will be given. What a person needs if they're going to escape or change a situation like the one in the KSA is a clear head.....an understanding of the nature of their situation -in reality-....that can produce well informed decisions. To be blunt, this great satan nonsense contributes to that situation..actively. You can show up with a bottle of water where people are dying of thirst, and these assholes will do the despots work for him on account of how they think the water contains sterilizing hormones.

(February 7, 2019 at 6:46 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Nope..and, frankly, that's horrendous advice.  No slack will be given.   What a person needs if they're going to escape or change a situation like the one in the KSA is a clear head.....an understanding of the nature of their situation -in reality-....that can produce well informed decisions.  To be blunt, this great satan nonsense contributes to that situation..actively.  You can show up with a bottle of water where people are dying of thirst, and these assholes will do the despots work for him on account of how they think the water contains sterilizing hormones.

Look, how many Christians have you run into who were isolated and didn't know any better? I've run into plenty.

In my years of reading his posts here, I do not feel like he is going to join Isis, or fly a jet into a skyscraper. 

He is delusional, but not suicidal. At least not from what I have seen in his posts.

He's frustrated. I would be too if I lived under the fuckers he lives under.

(February 7, 2019 at 5:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And I am astonished that an old story about a Japanese cannibal is somehow linked to the persecution of Muslims.  I know that every time I think about the resurgence of violence in Northern Ireland, I get so mad at 14th century Florentine merchants that I can't think straight.

Boru

Its a talent. 


C of E vicars can apparently link  anything back to jesus or god somehow. 
So their sermons are like "I saw a lorry full of milk overturned on the motorway this morning and seeing the clean up crew reminded me of how jesus cleaned up the lenders in the temple, showing jesus's contempt for all things caplitalist"

(February 7, 2019 at 2:27 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm legitimately astonished that with the neverending mountain of problems we have in the west, you routinely fail to present examples that are anything more or less than spider-brained rambling.

It's your problem that you "cherry pick" this single topic to judge me with it.
The big examples are always mentioned in my topics. Again; it's your problem that you can't see it. I advice you to read topics better.

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(February 7, 2019 at 5:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And I am astonished that an old story about a Japanese cannibal is somehow linked to the persecution of Muslims.  I know that every time I think about the resurgence of violence in Northern Ireland, I get so mad at 14th century Florentine merchants that I can't think straight.

Boru

Because it's pile; Boru.
This incident is a small contribution to the shit pile that end with the western institution selfishness and corrupt system of rule.

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(February 7, 2019 at 5:57 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Atlass, for one second leave the labels, religions and nationalities out of it.

I AGREE it is fucked up.

In my 52 years, even prior to the internet, I have seen plenty of fucked up stories about what humans do.  

This fucking sicko not only murdered his victims, BUT ATE THEM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer


Ok, but that was a serial killer? 

How about a guy named John Wayne Gacy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy

How about a sicko named Ted Bundy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy

This sicko is especially evil to me. This fucker not only killed an entire family, he took the boy and girl to the  basement and hung them naked, while masturbating. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader

Now, after you look at their pictures, notice a common link? They were all white and American born. That does not mean I like them, I hate sickos like that. But whatever goes on on my side of the world does not make Isis heros by default. It does not make Saudi or Iran leaders good by default. 

But Hitler murdered 6 million Jews selling the idea that they were evil and convinced a Christian majority nation to follow him.

Stalin also was an evil fuck, so was Po Pot, so are the Kim family who rule North Korea.

Nothing about human cruelty surprises me. And while I feel for your position, please do not claim Muslims are victims 100% of the time, while at the same time complaining RIGHTFULLY about the Muslim rule above you  don't like.

White people, white Christians and Jews and Buddhists and anyone of any label, worldwide, be it a serial killer, or world leader, are all capable of cruelty to others. The good thing about our species at the same time, is that we can be quite compassionate too.

Point is, there are bad people worldwide, bad leaders worldwide, but there are also good people worldwide, so instead of focusing on humanity's monsters, focus on those in humanity who point out the monsters, both foreign and domestic.

But if I didn't try to fill "the empty part of the cup", the whole cup will get emptied.
Life has the good and the bad, but we must fight the bad with everything we got.

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(February 7, 2019 at 6:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:Point is, there are bad people worldwide, bad leaders worldwide, but there are also good people worldwide, so instead of focusing on humanity's monsters, focus on those in humanity who point out the monsters, both foreign and domestic.

Yeah, but it only REALLY matters when bad things happen to Muslims.

Boru

No. It happens everywhere, but it's very ironic when it is pictured as it Muslims are the "demon".

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(February 7, 2019 at 6:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(February 7, 2019 at 6:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Boru

I do have empathy for him, not because he is Muslim, but because he is a fellow human being. 

I have the same empathy for Jews who suffered during the Holocaust, but hate Bibi. I have the same empathy for him as I do Kurdish Christians, but hate the KKK here whom are a Christian based organization. I have empathy for Malala, but not Bin Laden.

Yeah, I don't really care about who you empathize with or hate or don't hate.  I was making the point that Atlas can't seem to discuss anything without boo-hooing the way some Muslims are treat.  The victim card gets old after a while.

Boru

No, I'm not raising cards in a political game -like the west's leaders-. I instead raise my broken bones and the dead bodies of my brethren instead.

That is one cause I'll never leave.

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(February 7, 2019 at 6:20 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: He thinks that you're his ruler, Brian.  MBS is phoning a friend before he has some hooker murdered..and that friend is you, lol.  Some japanese cannibal released by japanese authorites just proves it..somehow!

No.
I wrote so many topics and posts -and you can visit my personal profile to see them- that explain exactly who the enemy is.

You enjoy debating the same moo point over and over and over, even though you got answered on it before.
You either have a goal to achieve, or just playing.
I don't want to play. My point is very obvious.

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(February 7, 2019 at 6:46 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Nope..and, frankly, that's horrendous advice.  No slack will be given.   What a person needs if they're going to escape or change a situation like the one in the KSA is a clear head.....an understanding of the nature of their situation -in reality-....that can produce well informed decisions.  To be blunt, this great satan nonsense contributes to that situation..actively.  You can show up with a bottle of water where people are dying of thirst, and these assholes will do the despots work for him on account of how they think the water contains sterilizing hormones.

Keep your slacks.

You don't know what I have been through. To be born a slave, the UN knows it but it's shut about it, the west knows it but it is shut about it, as a slave your owner -the Saudi regime- literally force fees of "slavery card renewal", I don't pay taxes like a free man, I pay "taxes+slave card renewal", I'm owned I have no freedom.

I can't build. I can't purchase land. I can't purchase apartments. Not due to money; but due to my race.
If I talk or object, they take me to prison where I get tortured with means HRW have mentioned: including electrocution, rape, sexual harassment.

And the west is covering up for them, and sometimes provide them with the means to torture even.

Keep your slacks.

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(February 7, 2019 at 7:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 7, 2019 at 6:46 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Nope..and, frankly, that's horrendous advice.  No slack will be given.   What a person needs if they're going to escape or change a situation like the one in the KSA is a clear head.....an understanding of the nature of their situation -in reality-....that can produce well informed decisions.  To be blunt, this great satan nonsense contributes to that situation..actively.  You can show up with a bottle of water where people are dying of thirst, and these assholes will do the despots work for him on account of how they think the water contains sterilizing hormones.

Look, how many Christians have you run into who were isolated and didn't know any better? I've run into plenty.

In my years of reading his posts here, I do not feel like he is going to join Isis, or fly a jet into a skyscraper. 

He is delusional, but not suicidal. At least not from what I have seen in his posts.

He's frustrated. I would be too if I lived under the fuckers he lives under.

The first point that put me against "terrorists" is that they kill and bomb innocent people that have nothing to do with the war the terrorist fight.

I believe it's forbidden; and even have direct verses from the Quran to validate my claims.
But terrorists don't hear this. They prefer to use the secular way of bombing kids and women who have nothing to do with fighting.

I will never kill or murder an innocent child, woman or man. Even if the enemy did. And that puts me under direct bombardment from secular people, Islamist and theists/atheists alike.

(February 8, 2019 at 6:34 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I believe it's forbidden; and even have direct verses from the Quran to validate my claims.

This is an atheist website and my guess is, nobody is interested in your unsubstantiated claims (that some fictional character forbade something), unless you can convince us that someone ever has existed and indeed forbade stuff.
Even better, you may even explain why you think its a good idea to forbid that suff, instead of licking some fictional boots.

If you want i can quote Harry Potter. How would you like that?

(February 8, 2019 at 7:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(February 8, 2019 at 6:34 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I believe it's forbidden; and even have direct verses from the Quran to validate my claims.

This is an atheist website and my guess is, nobody is interested in your unsubstantiated claims (that some fictional character forbade something), unless you can convince us that someone ever has existed and indeed forbade stuff.
Even better, you may even explain why you think its a good idea to forbid that suff, instead of licking some fictional boots.

If you want i can quote Harry Potter. How would you like that?

Well well; I like your true face better.
This website is not for atheists alone. So quit populous, mob speeches; they are obsolete.

Muslims are your enemies; right? so it's better to hear what Muslims have to say before leading the mob into a useless war.

So chill..I'm a Muslim on a website that accepts theists aside from its main component which is atheists.

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Then again from all my posts in this topic; you only cherry picked that line?

(February 8, 2019 at 6:34 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Keep your slacks.

You don't know what I have been through.

-and I don't care. 

Quote:To be born a slave, the UN knows it but it's shut about it, the west knows it but it is shut about it, as a slave your owner -the Saudi regime- literally force fees of "slavery card renewal", I don't pay taxes like a free man, I pay "taxes+slave card renewal", I'm owned I have no freedom.

I can't build. I can't purchase land. I can't purchase apartments. Not due to money; but due to my race.
If I talk or object, they take me to prison where I get tortured with means HRW have mentioned: including electrocution, rape, sexual harassment.

Then leave, or rise the fuck up.  "Boo hooo, if i try to do something about the terrible despot killing people he'll kill me".  Yeah, no shit.  That's how that works.  I'm tired of this whiney garbage coming out of the middle east.  Entire populations who won't lift a finger to help themselves even when the great satan manages to produce teenage girls who spend their own lives in that same attempt.  

Go, and fight the bad with everything you've got..atlass.

Quote:And the west is covering up for them, and sometimes provide them with the means to torture even.

Hmn, lets see lets see lets see..was it a ksa media outlet that widely broadcast the latest killing and made mbs interchangeable with a bone saw?  Ah...nope nope nope.  That'd be the great satan. Who publishes report after report after report, every year, on human rights abuse in the ksa? Great satan again. You make these posts, and then quote your own previous posts, as if you're opening the great satans eyes to anything we didn't already know.

We do. The middle east is full of assholes holding the levers of power. I wonder why that might be.....lol. How is it that such a broad swath of humanity has been so completely duped into bitching about the great satan while the imams and the hometown dicks just smack them in the face on a daily basis?

You seem to be able to see it very plainly here in the west, where an entire demographic has been convinced by the people who are fucking them over that it's actually the fault of some external brown invader...streaming across the border in hordes. Perhaps you should take that very accurate insight and shine a little light inwards, hmn?

(February 8, 2019 at 8:21 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(February 8, 2019 at 6:34 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Keep your slacks.

You don't know what I have been through.

-and I don't care. 

Then; you shouldn't speak about it.

Quote:Then leave, or rise the fuck up.  "Boo hooo, if i try to do something about the terrible despot killing people he'll kill me".  Yeah, no shit.  That's how that works.  I'm tired of this whiney garbage coming out of the middle east.  Entire populations who won't lift a finger to help themselves even when the great satan manages to produce teenage girls who spend their own lives in that same attempt.  

Go, and fight the bad with everything you've got..atlass.

A gang comes in. It rapes your mom, dad and family. Puts the gun to your head and tells you: leave if you don't like it. Or revolt.

?

Are we sick to assume that what you say is an argument?
What you say is what every Saudi working for the government says while brutalizing criticizers of the regime.

Ironic and sad.

Quote:Hmn, lets see lets see lets see..was it a ksa media outlet that widely broadcast the latest killing and made mbs interchangeable with a bone saw?  Ah...nope nope nope.  That'd be the great satan. Who publishes report after report after report, every year, on human rights abuse in the ksa? Great satan again. You make these posts, and then quote your own previous posts, as if you're opening the great satans eyes to anything we didn't already know.

We do. The middle east is full of assholes holding the levers of power. I wonder why that might be.....lol. How is it that such a broad swath of humanity has been so completely duped into bitching about the great satan while the imams and the hometown dicks just smack them in the face on a daily basis?

You seem to be able to see it very plainly here in the west, where an entire demographic has been convinced by the people who are fucking them over that it's actually the fault of some external brown invader...streaming across the border in hordes. Perhaps you should take that very accurate insight and shine a little light inwards, hmn?

This has crossed the line of "normal trolling" to become "an OCD aimed at keep ignoring my posts".
Now you claim that I defend Saudi Arabia, or it's disgusting regime?

You're trolling. And you want me to get angry and curse you, and get banned.
No; ain't gonna happen

You can try harder.

For the record, cursing at a mod isn't a bannable offense as far as I'm aware, Atlas.

I'm not a mod, either.  Call me a murderous white cocksucker if you like, atlass, it won't bother me.  Hell, unlike most of the shit in your posts it's meaningfully true!

Now that we've got that out of the way...can you see how convenient it is to a despotic authority to have a dump -that isn't them- for all the angst and rage that they've created, so as to distract simpletons and keep them in line?

Can you see how this is used to support those regimes..even while people imagine themselves to be opposing said despotic authorities?

Use the US for your example..as is your habit..and then turn that light inwards. You've been played. Not be me, not by the US. Not by "secularism"..whatever the hell you think that is. You've been played by your own set. Your own set kills you and gets you killed..because they don't care...especially as long as they can get you to blame someone else, some grand overarching white western conspiracy..and, ofc, teh jews!

You're a middle eastern trumpster and you don't even know it, lol.