(February 12, 2019 at 9:35 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(February 12, 2019 at 2:11 am)CDF47 Wrote: It's just reality and yes it is a heavily debated topic.  It is the Theory of Evolution, not the Law of Evolution. 

Common ancestry isn't based on the theory of evolution - and the "just a theory" song and dance is fundamentally idiotic.  There is the theory of evolution, and there are the facts of evolution.  Common ancestry actually is based on something we call laws.  The laws of inheritance, worked out by gregor mendel, the core of the study of genetics, which is one part of the theory of evolution, called modern synth.   You get your genetic material from your mommy and daddy.  That's where it comes from.  Shared genetic material indicates shared ancestry.   That's how paternity tests work.

Quote:There is no proof of common ancestry.

OFC there is, but more importantly..and apparently something you will never so much as allow yourself to address- 

If god made you from a monkey, if that's the way god wanted it..you have no time for that god.  Made to choose between the discredited beheite tinkerer and a broader and more competent christian god, you choose the beheite tinkerer.  

Christ doesn't know you, god does not listen to your prayers.  Magic book is clear on this issue.  The lord of the cosmos is not a god of ignorance or deference to personal desire.  You need to go find jesus, man..before it's too late.

The Bible tells us God made Adam and Eve as the first man and woman.  It makes no claim of descendants from monkeys.  The geological record shows explosions of new life throughout history on the geological time scales.  This is very relevant.  We do not find a slow gradual process of new life but explosions of new life and new information in the genome.  We do not find links to a common ancestry of monkeys just other men and women.

(February 12, 2019 at 11:17 am)CDF47 Wrote: The Bible tells us God made Adam and Eve as the first man and woman. 

-and if jewish magic book is wrong and god did it some other way, fuck god.

Quote:It makes no claim of descendants from monkeys. 

Why would it, it's authors had no idea of our origins, a god would know things they didn't.  Deferring to the ignorance of mythicists in contradiction to the will of a god as expressed by the reality of it's alleged creation seems unwise.  

Quote:The geological record shows explosions of new life throughout history on the geological time scales.  This is very relevant.  We do not find a slow gradual process of new life but explosions of new life and new information in the genome.  We do not find links to a common ancestry of monkeys just other men and women.

Lying about the geological record and assorted facts of biology..which could only be the record of creation..seems unwise.

Your every post confirms the one thing you can't bring yourself to say. You prefer false prophets and idol worship. You have no time for god, you are not comfortable with it's creation as-is. This is not a requirement of christian belief, it's a choice you've made for yourself. Others have made similar choices, magic book tells us gods opinion of people such as yourself, and their fates.

The good news is that it's never too late to come to christ. So...go...find some fuckin jesus for fucks sake.

(February 12, 2019 at 11:14 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(February 12, 2019 at 11:13 am)CDF47 Wrote: Because the Bible claims to be the inspired Word of God and I believe it due to the prophecies foretold, the fact that information was found inside of DNA, the fact that the universe is super-symmetrical and fine-tuned for life, and based on faith in my LORD and Savior Jesus Christ.

So tell me, which of all those came to you first?
Of which of those things were you first aware, either still as a child, or as a grown up...?

Accepting Jesus as my LORD and Savior came first.  My mom would read the Bible to me as an infant until I was 5 years old.  I then went to Catholic high school and had religion class every day for 4 years.  One year was current events actually but should have been religion as well.  I made my Communion in the Catholic church as a child and I made my Confirmation as a teenager.  I really professed Christ in my heart as a child and teenager.  I wasn't the best Christian growing up and I recently converted to Protestantism in the past 3 years.  I always knew I was designed and this universe was designed aside from a short stint as an 8 year old boy when 17 year old atheist convinced me to turn on God and focus on science.  I went back to the LORD shortly after though.  

I learned complex and functional information resides inside of DNA over the past decade.  I learned of the fine-tuned universe a bit before that.  I learned of the Big Bang Theory when I was about 12 years old.  I learned of the prophecies foretold in the Bible when I studied with Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) about 3 years ago.  I am not and never was an SDA member since they are based on the teachings of a false prophet but they teach some truths in their denomination.  Truth mixed with nonsense.

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(February 12, 2019 at 11:26 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(February 12, 2019 at 11:17 am)CDF47 Wrote: The Bible tells us God made Adam and Eve as the first man and woman. 

-and if magic book is wrong and god did it some other way, fuck god.

Quote:It makes no claim of descendants from monkeys. 

Why would it, it's authors had no idea of our origins, a god would know things they didn't.  Deferring to the ignorance of mythicists in contradiction to the will of a god as expressed by the reality of it's alleged creation seems unwise.  

Quote:The geological record shows explosions of new life throughout history on the geological time scales.  This is very relevant.  We do not find a slow gradual process of new life but explosions of new life and new information in the genome.  We do not find links to a common ancestry of monkeys just other men and women.

Lying about the geological record..which could only be the record of creation..seems unwise.

Fuck god, you're all in for behe and whatever campfire narrator told the stories in magic book.  If god did what reality tells us it must, if it exists..then you don;t have time for that god.

That is horrible blasphemy you speak.  Why do you do that if you do not believe in a Creator?

(February 12, 2019 at 11:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: That is horrible blasphemy you speak.  Why do you do that if you do not believe in a Creator?

Well..it's not -my- blasphemy, so it hardly matters.  That's more a question for you. Why do you insist on comfortable blasphemy rather than humulity and true faith in the face of the lord of creation and his work as it is?

I don't have to believe in a creator to understand that you're exactly the type of person being referred to in isaiah and matthew. I can read. I do, however, think it's ironic that an alleged christian can't get his shit together when his soul is on the line.

(February 12, 2019 at 11:35 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(February 12, 2019 at 11:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: That is horrible blasphemy you speak.  Why do you do that if you do not believe in a Creator?

Well..it's not -my- blasphemy, so it hardly matters.  That's more a question for you. Why do you insist on comfortable blasphemy rather than humulity and true faith in the face of the lord of creation and his work as it is?

I don't have to believe in a creator to understand that you're exactly the type of person being referred to in isaiah and matthew. I can read. I do, however, think it's ironic that an alleged christian can't get his shit together when his soul is on the line.

What is described in Isaiah and Matthew that you refer to?

You should really put down that beheite nonsense and read your own magic book sometime.  I already did you the solid of quoting it...but it probably shouldn't take an atheist to make you realize your failure in the eyes of god.

What have you done in these past 1200 pages besides show that you're petulantly arguing with a group of people who know biology and magic book better than you do? Other than express your petty demands on the divine?

(February 12, 2019 at 1:35 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You should really put down that beheite nonsense and read your own magic book sometime.  I already did you the solid of quoting it...but it probably shouldn't take an atheist to make you realize your failure in the eyes of god.

What have you done in these past 1200 pages besides show that you're petulantly arguing with a group of people who know biology and magic book better than you do?  Other than express your petty demands on the divine?

Can you quote the verses in Isaiah and Matthew? I'm interested in what you refer to?

Don't be lazy.  I already posted them, and I shouldn't have had to post them to you..in the first place. You even responded to the post.....gasp, shock, horror, you aren't actually reading? I never would have guessed.

(February 12, 2019 at 11:26 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(February 12, 2019 at 11:14 am)pocaracas Wrote: So tell me, which of all those came to you first?
Of which of those things were you first aware, either still as a child, or as a grown up...?

Accepting Jesus as my LORD and Savior came first.  My mom would read the Bible to me as an infant until I was 5 years old.  I then went to Catholic high school and had religion class every day for 4 years.  One year was current events actually but should have been religion as well.  I made my Communion in the Catholic church as a child and I made my Confirmation as a teenager.  I really professed Christ in my heart as a child and teenager.  I wasn't the best Christian growing up and I recently converted to Protestantism in the past 3 years.  I always knew I was designed and this universe was designed aside from a short stint as an 8 year old boy when 17 year old atheist convinced me to turn on God and focus on science.  I went back to the LORD shortly after though.  

I learned complex and functional information resides inside of DNA over the past decade.  I learned of the fine-tuned universe a bit before that.  I learned of the Big Bang Theory when I was about 12 years old.  I learned of the prophecies foretold in the Bible when I studied with Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) about 3 years ago.  I am not and never was an SDA member since they are based on the teachings of a false prophet but they teach some truths in their denomination.  Truth mixed with nonsense.

There you go!
You were brainwashed far before you could even think.

Now, if you could only understand why I use the term "brainwashed", instead of indoctrinated, you might have a chance at understanding that most of my posts geared towards you have been about you, and not so much about the argument at hand. And you'd maybe, not very likely but maybe, maybe you would then see that you might have some flaw in your reasoning. Some bias. Some tendency to adhere to a particular view of things, rather than another.

But that fact that this thread has passed over the 1000 page mark tells me that you can't see it. And you can't see it, because you're brainwashed to be unable to do that.
I can only hope that you don't ever have kids so that you don't put them through such terrible psychological conditioning.

(February 12, 2019 at 1:54 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Don't be lazy.  I already posted them, and I shouldn't have had to post them to you..in the first place.  You even responded to the post.....gasp, shock, horror, you aren't actually reading?  I never would have guessed.

I read  nearly all posts in this thread so I forgot about two verses you cited...big deal. Just restate them if you care to.