(February 20, 2019 at 6:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 6:23 pm)Yonadav Wrote: I have told you over and over that I won't vote for one of the New Dems under any circumstances. I absolutely won't agree to support the Dem nominee until I see who they are. You keep demanding an assurance that I clearly won't give to you.

You can support whomever you choose in the primaries. BUT you have explicitly stated that you won't support Bernie just to screw with his supporters. I'm asking you to explain how that makes sense.

Good for you, stick to your principles.

When reality bites you in the ass, don't come bitching to me.

OK. Here's what I think. I think that you don't vote in primaries. You didn't vote for Bernie in 2016. And I think that this whole thread was sort of an insane ruse for you to demand the unconditional support of Bernie supporters for the Democratic nominee, no matter who that is. Sorry dude. The Democratic Party doesn't command that kind of loyalty.

Holy crap asshole.

I HAVE VOTED IN EVERY FUCKING PRIMARY AND IN EVERY GENERAL SINCE I WAS 18 AND I AM 52 NOW!

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(February 20, 2019 at 6:50 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 6:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Good for you, stick to your principles.

When reality bites you in the ass, don't come bitching to me.

OK. Here's what I think. I think that you don't vote in primaries. You didn't vote for Bernie in 2016. And I think that this whole thread was sort of an insane ruse for you to demand the unconditional support of Bernie supporters for the Democratic nominee, no matter who that is. Sorry dude. The Democratic Party doesn't command that kind of loyalty.

If the democratic party does not demand that kind of loyalty then why did Bernie run on that party last time, and throw his support behind Hillary in the general?

(February 20, 2019 at 7:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Holy crap asshole.

I HAVE VOTED IN EVERY FUCKING PRIMARY AND IN EVERY GENERAL SINCE I WAS 18 AND I AM 52 NOW!

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(February 20, 2019 at 6:50 pm)Yonadav Wrote: OK. Here's what I think. I think that you don't vote in primaries. You didn't vote for Bernie in 2016. And I think that this whole thread was sort of an insane ruse for you to demand the unconditional support of Bernie supporters for the Democratic nominee, no matter who that is. Sorry dude. The Democratic Party doesn't command that kind of loyalty.

If the democratic party does not demand that kind of loyalty then why did Bernie run on that party last time, and throw his support behind Hillary in the general?

I also threw in with Hillary once she clinched the nomination. What of it? We supported her, despite knowing that the corrupt party had put a thumb on the scale for her. She was up against one of the weakest candidates in the history of presidential elections. And she blew it. 

Her wing of the party locked my wing of the party up in the basement after we lost the presidential election in 1972. And that race was impossible to win. Hillary fucked up and lost to an orange clown. It's time for her wing of the party to be locked up in the basement.  I will never vote for a New Dem again. There have to be consequences for fucking up as bad as the New Dems did in 2016. They arranged for a thumb to be placed on the scale for their candidate, and then they blew it. Never again.

(February 20, 2019 at 8:31 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 7:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Holy crap asshole.

I HAVE VOTED IN EVERY FUCKING PRIMARY AND IN EVERY GENERAL SINCE I WAS 18 AND I AM 52 NOW!

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If the democratic party does not demand that kind of loyalty then why did Bernie run on that party last time, and throw his support behind Hillary in the general?

I also threw in with Hillary once she clinched the nomination. What of it? We supported her, despite knowing that the corrupt party had put a thumb on the scale for her. She was up against one of the weakest candidates in the history of presidential elections. And she blew it. 

Her wing of the party locked my wing of the party up in the basement after we lost the presidential election in 1972. And that race was impossible to win. Hillary fucked up and lost to an orange clown. It's time for her wing of the party to be locked up in the basement.  I will never vote for a New Dem again. There have to be consequences for fucking up as bad as the New Dems did in 2016. They arranged for a thumb to be placed on the scale for their candidate, and then they blew it. Never again.

Uh, your men blew it in 1972. Never again seems to have crystallized into immutable reality, not merely a spiteful resolve.

(February 20, 2019 at 8:31 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 7:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Holy crap asshole.

I HAVE VOTED IN EVERY FUCKING PRIMARY AND IN EVERY GENERAL SINCE I WAS 18 AND I AM 52 NOW!

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If the democratic party does not demand that kind of loyalty then why did Bernie run on that party last time, and throw his support behind Hillary in the general?

I also threw in with Hillary once she clinched the nomination. What of it? We supported her, despite knowing that the corrupt party had put a thumb on the scale for her. She was up against one of the weakest candidates in the history of presidential elections. And she blew it. 

Her wing of the party locked my wing of the party up in the basement after we lost the presidential election in 1972. And that race was impossible to win. Hillary fucked up and lost to an orange clown. It's time for her wing of the party to be locked up in the basement.  I will never vote for a New Dem again. There have to be consequences for fucking up as bad as the New Dems did in 2016. They arranged for a thumb to be placed on the scale for their candidate, and then they blew it. Never again.

Hillary didn't fuck up; she lost.

(February 20, 2019 at 8:31 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 7:42 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Holy crap asshole.

I HAVE VOTED IN EVERY FUCKING PRIMARY AND IN EVERY GENERAL SINCE I WAS 18 AND I AM 52 NOW!

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If the democratic party does not demand that kind of loyalty then why did Bernie run on that party last time, and throw his support behind Hillary in the general?

I also threw in with Hillary once she clinched the nomination. What of it? We supported her, despite knowing that the corrupt party had put a thumb on the scale for her. She was up against one of the weakest candidates in the history of presidential elections. And she blew it. 

Her wing of the party locked my wing of the party up in the basement after we lost the presidential election in 1972. And that race was impossible to win. Hillary fucked up and lost to an orange clown. It's time for her wing of the party to be locked up in the basement.  I will never vote for a New Dem again. There have to be consequences for fucking up as bad as the New Dems did in 2016. They arranged for a thumb to be placed on the scale for their candidate, and then they blew it. Never again.

Neat trick, so Hillary had a direct effect long before she was even the wife of a Governor? 

You do know "Back To The Future" is just a movie?

(February 20, 2019 at 8:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 8:31 pm)Yonadav Wrote: I also threw in with Hillary once she clinched the nomination. What of it? We supported her, despite knowing that the corrupt party had put a thumb on the scale for her. She was up against one of the weakest candidates in the history of presidential elections. And she blew it. 

Her wing of the party locked my wing of the party up in the basement after we lost the presidential election in 1972. And that race was impossible to win. Hillary fucked up and lost to an orange clown. It's time for her wing of the party to be locked up in the basement.  I will never vote for a New Dem again. There have to be consequences for fucking up as bad as the New Dems did in 2016. They arranged for a thumb to be placed on the scale for their candidate, and then they blew it. Never again.

Uh, your men blew it in 1972.  Never again seems to have crystallized into immutable reality, not merely a spiteful resolve.

Who cares what you think? You have the political IQ of a potato and you would have voted for Trump if he had been a Democrat. Or Adolf Hitler, as long as he's a Dem.

(February 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 8:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Uh, your men blew it in 1972.  Never again seems to have crystallized into immutable reality, not merely a spiteful resolve.

Who cares what you think? You have the political IQ of a potato and you would have voted for Trump if he had been a Democrat. Or Adolf Hitler, as long as he's a Dem.

Damn, you got us. Not true, but must be some good bath salts you are on.

(February 20, 2019 at 8:59 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 8:31 pm)Yonadav Wrote: I also threw in with Hillary once she clinched the nomination. What of it? We supported her, despite knowing that the corrupt party had put a thumb on the scale for her. She was up against one of the weakest candidates in the history of presidential elections. And she blew it. 

Her wing of the party locked my wing of the party up in the basement after we lost the presidential election in 1972. And that race was impossible to win. Hillary fucked up and lost to an orange clown. It's time for her wing of the party to be locked up in the basement.  I will never vote for a New Dem again. There have to be consequences for fucking up as bad as the New Dems did in 2016. They arranged for a thumb to be placed on the scale for their candidate, and then they blew it. Never again.

Neat trick, so Hillary had a direct effect long before she was even the wife of a Governor? 

You do know "Back To The Future" is just a movie?

I know that you aren't this dumb. The neoliberal Dems took over the party in the wake of the 1972 defeat of McGovern.  That's the wing of the party that the Clintons came to dominate.

(February 20, 2019 at 9:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm)Yonadav Wrote: Who cares what you think? You have the political IQ of a potato and you would have voted for Trump if he had been a Democrat. Or Adolf Hitler, as long as he's a Dem.

Damn, you got us. Not true, but must be some good bath salts you are on.

Who is 'us'?  Are there more than one of you in that head?