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It's (NOT) a miracle!
#11
RE: It's (NOT) a miracle!
Yes, we've heard of the miracle of the sun...it's exactly the sort of "miracle" the OP made this thread about.  You couldn't even contain yourself to honesty in describing it, lol...?
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#15
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Iv only recently learnt about peoples alternate ego. I found mine and i fuckin hate him.
Don't get me wrong im not Sigmund Freud but i can identify my alter ego now.
And I can see the alter egos of others easier now, especially when they come from a place similar to mine.

Notice how no one was bold enough to actually go and have an objective look at the details and try to give an explination that makes sense. This is your alter ego and its fear. I found my alter ego was giving me all kinds of excuses and justifications to stop me from learning about something that would break it. And what do we find, a barrage of questions. The answer is at ur finger tips but ur alter ego will not let it happen. u can find out urself what predictions, how many, who. But didn't u? Seriously why didn't u simply find the answers? Ur alter ego won't let u answer that.
An objective secular person would look at it closer and try formulate an explination.

Im not making the claim. I even gave u guys facts that don't add up like that the kids didn't see it, that peoples stories don't match up. but it just got thrown back at me. Fuckin hell i can't believe iv been blind to my alter ego my whole life... FFAAARRKKKK.
U guys are so lucky ur alter ego has only fucked u around on such trvial matters that actually have zero effects on ur lives. Where the fuck was my alter ego in this topic... Ye ok i get it. When i was an atheist it was my alternate, then... i get it... Fuck...

Stay fixed in this position for 6-8 years and ur never changing. No big deal...
Serious advise, don't let that happen in regards to the important things in ur life... Ur alter ego will fuck u up...

Actually my alter ego came here to justify to him that my atheism was justified. Its gone now, something else broke it, i hope.
Need to construct a new one now and its said that i need a moral base to build on. There is none here.

Iv also learnt there is even a higher truth than knowledge. U guys aren't even close so i won't even bother.
Its so sad to see humanity stuck way back on a question of belief in a god made by some ancient text.
So much time and effort and i didn't see one person in here arguing the existance of god.
Who are u really arguing against? Ur alter ego. There is no one here but ur alter ego talking about god. So affraid is he.
Knowing he can shatter at the sight of facts he deceives u to not get bruised.
Just realized my alter ego is afraid to learn more. Have to keep going. Sigmund Freud, im ready to see u now.

Only wen ur ready to search without aknlowledging any theologins can u perhaps find thought.
After thought if u can repress ur alter ego enough u will see that theres always a possibility of some kind of higher entity.
Knowledge will be too late for alot of u guys stuck in a dogma. The highest level that i know now is simply unobtainable for u guys.
Doesn't mean anything in this scenario as ur lifes arent in the way. Ur simply arguing over nothing. Lucky

Anyway i can't say i found atheist to be civilized humans. They lie they are rude. I can't blame anyone for their alter egos. Ur not even supposed to be concious of it. It cannot be found without searching for it. U guys are incapable of searching simple facts let alone begin the search of knowing ur self.

From what iv experienced here but i thank everyone for displaying the true side of atheism for what it is...
One last question before I start taking this path which scares me. At least i know now its my alt ego scaring me, making excuses when i know i have to go and do this...

One last question. U couldn't honestly give my parents an explination. One thoery is the lack of empathy makes us blind to our alter ego.
Try be empathetic. Anyone heard of Russell Brand? Or imagine ur best friend says to u Iv been a drug addict for so long. I lost my job, my parntner and my kids. My parents disowned me before death. I didn't want to wake up, homeless, i was contemplating suicide methods wondering what the quickest most painful way is. and was only able to mend this mental disorder by following a higher power, God...

Do u seriously tell him his an idiot? Can u live with urself if u dragged him back and he relapses and overdoses?
What do u tell someone who comes to u with this kind of real life trauma?
Do u stick to ur dogma no matter what? Do u simply ad hominem me like many have from day one and pretend this doesn't happen?
Naturally a moral person would want to help their friend. How would u help???

Sadly i predict only the alter egos will show up. U know i see little evidence for a God but i see so much evidence for a Satan

Anyway i wish everyone the best. I mean that, a disagreement on a topic doesn't mean i treat u like u treated me...
Doesn't mean i take something personal like ur family and drag them through the mud like ur alter egos did without explination...
What am i doing. Not ur fault. All the best
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#16
RE: It's (NOT) a miracle!
(March 8, 2019 at 3:42 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Iv only recently learnt about peoples alternate ego. I found mine and i fuckin hate him.
Don't get me wrong im not Sigmund Freud but i can identify my alter ego now.
And I can see the alter egos of others easier now, especially when they come from a place similar to mine.

Notice how no one was bold enough to actually go and have an objective look at the details and try to give an explination that makes sense. This is your alter ego and its fear. I found my alter ego was giving me all kinds of excuses and justifications to stop me from learning about something that would break it. And what do we find, a barrage of questions. The answer is at ur finger tips but ur alter ego will not let it happen. u can find out urself what predictions, how many, who. But didn't u? Seriously why didn't u simply find the answers? Ur alter ego won't let u answer that.
An objective secular person would look at it closer and try formulate an explination.

Im not making the claim. I even gave u guys facts that don't add up like that the kids didn't see it, that peoples stories don't match up. but it just got thrown back at me. Fuckin hell i can't believe iv been blind to my alter ego my whole life... FFAAARRKKKK.
U guys are so lucky ur alter ego has only fucked u around on such trvial matters that actually have zero effects on ur lives. Where the fuck was my alter ego in this topic... Ye ok i get it. When i was an atheist it was my alternate, then... i get it... Fuck...

Stay fixed in this position for 6-8 years and ur never changing. No big deal...
Serious advise, don't let that happen in regards to the important things in ur life... Ur alter ego will fuck u up...

Actually my alter ego came here to justify to him that my atheism was justified. Its gone now, something else broke it, i hope.
Need to construct a new one now and its said that i need a moral base to build on. There is none here.

Iv also learnt there is even a higher truth than knowledge. U guys aren't even close so i won't even bother.
Its so sad to see humanity stuck way back on a question of belief in a god made by some ancient text.
So much time and effort and i didn't see one person in here arguing the existance of god.
Who are u really arguing against? Ur alter ego. There is no one here but ur alter ego talking about god. So affraid is he.
Knowing he can shatter at the sight of facts he deceives u to not get bruised.
Just realized my alter ego is afraid to learn more. Have to keep going. Sigmund Freud, im ready to see u now.

Only wen ur ready to search without aknlowledging any theologins can u perhaps find thought.
After thought if u can repress ur alter ego enough u will see that theres always a possibility of some kind of higher entity.
Knowledge will be too late for alot of u guys stuck in a dogma. The highest level that i know now is simply unobtainable for u guys.
Doesn't mean anything in this scenario as ur lifes arent in the way. Ur simply arguing over nothing. Lucky

Anyway i can't say i found atheist to be civilized humans. They lie they are rude. I can't blame anyone for their alter egos. Ur not even supposed to be concious of it. It cannot be found without searching for it. U guys are incapable of searching simple facts let alone begin the search of knowing ur self.

From what iv experienced here but i thank everyone for displaying the true side of atheism for what it is...
One last question before I start taking this path which scares me. At least i know now its my alt ego scaring me, making excuses when i know i have to go and do this...

One last question. U couldn't honestly give my parents an explination. One thoery is the lack of empathy makes us blind to our alter ego.
Try be empathetic. Anyone heard of Russell Brand? Or imagine ur best friend says to u Iv been a drug addict for so long. I lost my job, my parntner and my kids. My parents disowned me before death. I didn't want to wake up, homeless, i was contemplating suicide methods wondering what the quickest most painful way is. and was only able to mend this mental disorder by following a higher power, God...

Do u seriously tell him his an idiot? Can u live with urself if u dragged him back and he relapses and overdoses?
What do u tell someone who comes to u with this kind of real life trauma?
Do u stick to ur dogma no matter what? Do u simply ad hominem me like many have from day one and pretend this doesn't happen?
Naturally a moral person would want to help their friend. How would u help???

Sadly i predict only the alter egos will show up. U know i see little evidence for a God but i see so much evidence for a Satan

Anyway i wish everyone the best. I mean that, a disagreement on a topic doesn't mean i treat u like u treated me...
Doesn't mean i take something personal like ur family and drag them through the mud like ur alter egos did without explination...
What am i doing. Not ur fault. All the best

What are you 12? Textspeak is for SMS. Grow up and get literate.

You learned nothing here because you didn't come here to learn anything. You came here with a dumb agenda and stuck to it, eschewing any and all honest discussion.

There is a reason you see little evidence for god. There is none. Same for satan. And there is no evidence for either because they are mere figments of your imagination.
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#17
RE: It's (NOT) a miracle!
(March 5, 2019 at 4:07 am)Cepheus Ace Wrote:

ah modern miracles, they seem only true when there is no evidence but a lot of lying involved

Why do athiests have a habit of making up arguments and then proceed to debunk the argument that only they themselves have made?
To answer the question of why isn't anyone walking on water, or multiplying bread and fish? Last I looked those miracles were literally preformed by God himself, any of you see Jesus walking around?
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#18
RE: It's (NOT) a miracle!
(March 9, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:
(March 5, 2019 at 4:07 am)Cepheus Ace Wrote:

ah modern miracles, they seem only true when there is no evidence but a lot of lying involved

Why do athiests have a habit of making up arguments and then proceed to debunk the argument that only they themselves have made?
To answer the question of why isn't anyone walking on water, or multiplying bread and fish? Last I looked those miracles were literally preformed by God himself, any of you see Jesus walking around?

That's not really a good argument in favour of miracles.  I can imagine plenty of miracles that God could perform without Jesus having to be physically  present.

To take the two you mention, if Jesus can feed a multitude with a few fish and some bread, why haven't modern miracles been reported of large amounts of food suddenly appearing to feed the hungry?  If Jesus can walk on water, why haven't we read about  God miracle-ing that same ability into people trying to save a drowning child? 

If you want to insist that Jesus be corporeally present for miracles to occur, all well and good - you've got a basic right to believe whatever you like.  It seems, however, that such a requirement severely limits the power of God. Or, is it your contention that miracles ended with the Ascension?  If so, same objection.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#19
RE: It's (NOT) a miracle!
(March 9, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:
(March 5, 2019 at 4:07 am)Cepheus Ace Wrote:

ah modern miracles, they seem only true when there is no evidence but a lot of lying involved

Why do athiests have a habit of making up arguments and then proceed to debunk the argument that only they themselves have made?
To answer the question of why isn't anyone walking on water, or multiplying bread and fish? Last I looked those miracles were literally preformed by God himself, any of you see Jesus walking around?

so god can't do anything unless he's is present right where it happens...... by this logic no miracles have happened in the last several hundred years because no on has ever proven that god walked around when anything happened
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#20
RE: It's (NOT) a miracle!
Yeah, Jesus keeps missing the date(s) given for his return(s) therefore no one has seen him walking around... on water or on land.
What fresh hell can this be? - Dorothy Parker
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