(March 13, 2019 at 5:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 4:55 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: What I find amusing is that those things which inform us of mitochondrial eve, his misconceptions lain entirely aside, are the -same- things that inform us of common ancestry.  Blunty, mt-eve is a comment on common ancestry.

If we can't trust genetics on common ancestry, then we can't trust genetics on common ancestry....as in so many other areas, this nutball needs to make up his mind.

MtEve shows common human descent.

If you say so, but if so, the very same things demonstrate that god made you from a monkey.

My opinion? I think you should just drop the eve shit, you know that you're wrong and you very much don't want to worship a god that made you from monkeys. The genetics claim isn't required for your beliefs, but it does demonstrate their idiocy. Your call, though.

(March 13, 2019 at 6:03 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 5:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote: MtEve shows common human descent.

If you say so, but if so, the very same things demonstrate that god made you from a monkey.

My opinion? I think you should just drop the eve shit, you know that you're wrong and you very much don't want to worship a god that made you from monkeys. The genetics claim isn't required for your beliefs, but it does demonstrate their idiocy. Your call, though.

Again, it does not prove we evolved from monkey.

At work.

Okay.... Here's a question for you CDF47, lay man to lay man, what then came 'Before' mtEve?

Since you threw in the towel in regards towards gathering a supportive concensus amongst the 'scholars' (I use the tetm incredibly loosely here) about things genetical.

Cheers.

Gae, APES, please.

We have common ancestors with monkeys However, human beings [by definition and classification] are primates, which means we are a species of ape.

Catholics find literalists Christians hilarious. It's such a weak position to take. Too easy to point out logical absurdities, such as all humans came from Adam and Eve.If so, through inbreeding, humans have soon become too physically and mentally impaired to breed.

Noah; the bible does not simply say 'two of everything": It's two of each UNCLEAN animal, of CLEAN animals SEVEN pairs. As far as I can work out, the Ark was a lot smaller than say the Titanic.--Let's just say there was room for the millions of species of insects and arachnids--how did Australian native animals get there?

The Catholics are far more cunning: They have no problem saying that much of the old testament is metaphor: EG the Seven day creation, Adam and Eve, Noah, Tower of Babel. That gives them so much wriggle room. The literalists are stuck with claims so bizarre and so absurd that that people with an IQ above ambient room temperature just laugh at them.

I'm NOT saying all fundamentalists are stupid. Indeedly doodly not! However, being stupid is a decided advantage if you are going to actually believe those myths are the literal word of a creator..

At work.

Oh I do love asking the literalists how Australian fauna got all the way there from the ark.

Their answers generally are worth passage through an echidna's cloaca.

(March 13, 2019 at 6:25 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

Okay.... Here's a question for you CDF47, lay man to lay man, what then came 'Before' mtEve?

Since you threw in the towel in regards towards gathering a supportive concensus amongst the 'scholars' (I use the tetm incredibly loosely here) about things genetical.

Cheers.

I believe Mt-Eves date back to a single Eve, our ultimate grandmother.

(March 13, 2019 at 6:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 6:03 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: If you say so, but if so, the very same things demonstrate that god made you from a monkey.

My opinion?  I think you should just drop the eve shit, you know that you're wrong and you very much don't want to worship a god that made you from monkeys.  The genetics claim isn't required for your beliefs, but it does demonstrate their idiocy.  Your call, though.

Again, it does not prove we evolved from monkey.

Genetics either indicates common descent or it doesn't.

(March 13, 2019 at 6:35 pm)fredd bear Wrote: Gae, APES, please.

We have common ancestors with monkeys However, human beings [by definition and classification] are primates, which means we are a species of ape.

Catholics find literalists Christians hilarious. It's such a weak position to take. Too easy to point out logical absurdities, such as all humans came from Adam and Eve.If so, through inbreeding, humans have soon become too physically and mentally impaired to breed.

Noah; the bible does not simply say 'two of everything": It's two of each UNCLEAN animal, of CLEAN animals SEVEN pairs. As far as I can work out, the Ark was a lot smaller than say the Titanic.--Let's just say there was room for the millions of species of insects and arachnids--how did Australian native animals get there?

The Catholics are far more cunning: They have no problem saying that much of the old testament is metaphor: EG the Seven day creation, Adam and Eve, Noah, Tower of Babel. That gives them so much wriggle room. The literalists are stuck with claims so bizarre and so absurd that that people with an IQ above ambient room temperature just laugh at them.

I'm NOT saying all fundamentalists are stupid. Indeedly doodly not! However, being stupid is a decided advantage if you are going to actually believe those myths are the literal word of a creator..

The Bible claims to be the Word of God. God is not the auothor of confusion.

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(March 13, 2019 at 6:43 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 6:18 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Again, it does not prove we evolved from monkey.

Genetics either indicates common descent or it doesn't.

It doesnt. There are explosions of life.

(March 13, 2019 at 6:46 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

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(March 13, 2019 at 6:43 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Genetics either indicates common descent or it doesn't.

It doesnt. There are explosions of life.

Then it doesn't indicate common descent with any mt-eve, either.

(March 13, 2019 at 5:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 13, 2019 at 5:51 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: I thought you said you knew about genetics.

I do.  Do have details on this to see if a study has been conducted to determine if human DNA was ever in a perfect state.

You are the one claiming something changed after the fall. It is you that get to demonstrate how and why you know that. 
Get busy.

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(March 13, 2019 at 5:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

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Explain EXACTLY how it supports it.