(March 15, 2019 at 1:55 am)no one Wrote: Science is humble. god is a barbaric, conceited, insolent clod!

That's what they™ say.

Yea, blame it on God!

(March 15, 2019 at 4:13 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(March 15, 2019 at 3:53 am)Catharsis Wrote: That's what they™ say.

Yea, blame it on God!

God is "what they™ say".
You will not find an instance of any God actually saying anything without a human mouthpiece (they™).

Freaky.

Science is better than nothing.

Jeremiah 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
 
God will reveal the truth to you when you are ready to seek him and patiently wait.
 
Simply Search YouTube "Near death experience Jesus".  There's hundreds of videos of people seeing Jesus or having a divine experience.
 
Evidence on the Shroud of Turin
Four new tests – Dr. Raymond Rogers and Dr. Giulio Fanti –  give date of 50 A.D.
The image on the Shroud of Turin is “pixilated,” meaning that it’s made up of thousands of tiny dots. Each dot only penetrates partway into the topmost fibrils of the outer threads, each of which is about 1/10 the width of a human hair.
The only known explanation for the formation of the image is an intense burst of vacuum ultraviolet radiation (equivalent to the output of 14,000 excimer lasers) emitted from every three-dimensional point of the body in the Shroud. 
 
https://www.magiscenter.com/5-key-pieces...-of-turin/
 
 
Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
 
Act 17:30
In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent.
 
If We TRULY believe that and do not believe in vain and repent of your sins. That is what saves you!
 
Nothing we do on our own power ( Works ) saves us...Good works produce from our salvation once the Holy Spirit takes residence in our life...
 
Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV)
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
 
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

A scientist figures out how to make life out of a bucket of dirt.
He steps out of his lab, looks defiantly at the sky, and shouts, "I too can create life!"
A deep voice thunders down from the sky, "Oh, really? Let's see you do it."
"OK, I will!" The scientist gets his bucket and shovel, and starts filling the bucket with dirt.
The voice from the sky thunders, "Whoa, hold on there! What's that you're doing?"
"I'm shoveling up some dirt from which I'm going to create life!"
"Go make your own dirt."

If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first, invent, the universe.

The same challenge, though, can be applied to gods. If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent yourselves.

as a point of fact, the universe made the pie.

how did it do that?

I’ve got a great recipe for caramel apple and rum pie. I’d shudder to imagine it’s full expression as the universes recipe.

Mine says stuff like “brown apples in butter” the other one would have thing like “annihilate proto Planetary disk and remix ingredients slowly for billions of years.....then wait for gae to brown apples in butter”

There’d be a little footnote for interim steps like “malaria” and “don’t forget Rwandan genocide”. Lol

(August 2, 2019 at 10:30 am)comet Wrote: as a point of fact, the universe made the pie.

how did it do that?

By being everything, I guess.

(December 21, 2017 at 3:20 am)ignoramus Wrote: (in no particular order)
Theists tell me, why is it that everything that God has provided, created and bestowed upon us, co-incidentally always seems to have
an alternate natural, more feasible explanation?

Why cannot science objectively find just one example out of trillions, where we can say, yeah, that thing right there, it shouldn't happen like that but it does, repeatedly.
That thing goes against what is logical or possible in our universe.
Example: People go back to Fatima, pray en masse for a sundance and on queue the Sun dances! For all the world to see?

Maybe it is the work of a God? They prayed to a God and a God responded... Makes logical sense.

But if God is going to act exactly like he doesn't exist in our universe, theists, why on earth do you even assume that he does?
What compels you to go against the grain of logic and common sense and dedicate your life to a particular myth from millions of other man made myths?

We just need one tiny example for God to show us something, but even that is asking too much for a non existent God.
Funny how everything in the world seems to make more sense when you take any extra unnecessary baggage out of the picture. (Occams)

Yeah, the world is a cruel place for the most part, but how is believing in something not real going to help anything or anyone.
Have we really reduced our species to relying on false hope to get by? We must have: 80% of the world does it.

(Even at the quantum level, weird shit happens, that isn't God! Why would the creator of the universe need to hide inside of atoms while we're all outside?
That's how our universe has been for 14 billion years, we're just discovering it now (last 100 years -through knowledge and technology.)

I disagree. anything that isnt founded by god himself in his word dosnt make sense. Like coming from apes/monkeys. No one has seen one evolve into a human. If we were millions of years old we would be more intelligent then we are now. The world would be alot worse. Its more easier to say someone created everything then big bang. Which by the way is unproven. Where do morals come from? and law? what about faith in something?