(March 25, 2019 at 9:19 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 25, 2019 at 9:07 am)Equinox25 Wrote: By the way, isn't incredible how quickly Trump supporters are believing what Barr is saying? This really shows how guilable they are.

Unfortunately his base would still vote for him if he did "shoot someone on 5th AVE".

What we are really seeing is white anxiety over times changing. The same fear was on display when women fought for the right to vote, and when Martin Luther King Jr lead the civil rights movement.

The GOP has been great at exploiting this fear in middle America. The way to undermine this tactic, if for dems to not only appeal to urbans, and suburbans, but to expand the map to middle America and the rust belt states, and tell them they are getting just as screwed as dems are. If we focus on the GOP continuing to try to gut social security and medicare, and point out every time jobs get lost, that can be enough to bridge the gap.

The point isn't to appeal to 45's base, they are too far gone. But we still are in a position, see Beto and Stacy, even though they lost, came closer than anyone expected in two southern states. That can be enough to swamp 45 in places like Ohio and Penn and Fla. Mind anyone reading this, i am not telling anyone who to vote for in the primaries. I am merely saying whomever we nominate, that should be the tactic of the entire party.

I think you are right about his base. They are a lost cause. They would rather see the "libtards" cry then have a decent president. Also that white anxiety you hit the nail on the head as well.

(March 25, 2019 at 9:37 am)Equinox25 Wrote:

(March 25, 2019 at 9:19 am)Brian37 Wrote: Unfortunately his base would still vote for him if he did "shoot someone on 5th AVE".

What we are really seeing is white anxiety over times changing. The same fear was on display when women fought for the right to vote, and when Martin Luther King Jr lead the civil rights movement.

The GOP has been great at exploiting this fear in middle America. The way to undermine this tactic, if for dems to not only appeal to urbans, and suburbans, but to expand the map to middle America and the rust belt states, and tell them they are getting just as screwed as dems are. If we focus on the GOP continuing to try to gut social security and medicare, and point out every time jobs get lost, that can be enough to bridge the gap.

The point isn't to appeal to 45's base, they are too far gone. But we still are in a position, see Beto and Stacy, even though they lost, came closer than anyone expected in two southern states. That can be enough to swamp 45 in places like Ohio and Penn and Fla. Mind anyone reading this, i am not telling anyone who to vote for in the primaries. I am merely saying whomever we nominate, that should be the tactic of the entire party.

I think you are right about his base. They are a lost cause. They would rather see the "libtards" cry then have a decent president. Also that white anxiety you hit the nail on the head as well.

Glad you think so, I charge $100 per hour. But don't worry, it is that money with the tubby guy with the tux and the top hat on it.

(March 25, 2019 at 7:24 am)Brian37 Wrote: It should have been enough, with all the repetitive vile rhetoric coming out of the bully's mouth on Twitter multiple times a day, to deem him unfit. But what has been said in this report, is not a 100% vindication and once again, the orange asshole has to lie about it. This is not like when a jury says, "not guilty" and jurors get interviewed and directly confirm that. This report is more like a hung jury where many interviewed afterwords, the accused stunk like shit, but still wanted more to have a solid conviction.

An no, this is not a matter of wanting the office to fail, this for me is about the individual, the man, and his behavior alone. Gotti got away with alot before he was finally nailed. That is what we are looking at here. It is not a conspiracy on my part, the very fact that Mueller didn't come out and say he was 100% not guilty, as if DNA proved he was not the killer, says alot. This is more like in The First 48, when the detective question a bunch of people, including the person of interest, and still let him go because they still do not have enough. 

I do not fault Mueller one bit. But this is not over, not in the slightest. I am damned sure this more of a smart move on Mueller's part so that when 45 gets nailed by state investigators, Mueller cannot be painted as corrupt as the orange bully has wrongfully been calling him. 

If Dems are smart, they won't push this too far, because 45 will play victim in 2020 and use this. I think our best tactic now is to pound the fact that he and the GOP are going to try to gut social security and medicare, and pound his attacks on McCain. 

I would love to see the fucker impeached. But now, still have to wait for the report to come out, not this summery, and we also have to let the state investigations play out too.

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What happened with this report, was a lot like when I went to traffic court a long time ago. Before the judge got to mere traffic cases a couple hours were spent on criminal charges. Cab driver identified a suspect in the court as robbing him, problem was, he was the only witness, the accused had his entire family say he was watching TV and never left the house. True? Um maybe, maybe not, because based on what the judge said before dismissing the case, the judge himself said he thought the entire thing stunk. That says to me, that judge was probably privy to other prior arrests or convictions of the accused, but had no choice but to dismiss it. When a case isn't indicted, they are not saying the person cannot be indicted later, it merely means that the court wants a solid case that cannot be easily overturned upon appeal.

Are you stupid or did you not read the 4 page summary? this wasnot a hung jury thing this was there was absolutely no collusion found in trumps team what so ever thing. Are you so stupid as to thing the american people would allow a 2 year multi million dollar investigation op out with a 'hung jury?" what fake news station do you watch msnbc4? here try sourcing from a primary source once in a while rather than taking state propaganda as 100% truth!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019...eport.html

You're imagining things.  The letter stated that they found nothing that they felt proved "collusion" beyond a reasonable doubt, and that barr/rosenstein ultimately decided not to pursue obstruction charges.

The letter is not muellers report, and whatever else it may be it;s very clearly an attempt to frame the discussion, lol.

(March 25, 2019 at 10:33 am)Drich Wrote:

(March 25, 2019 at 7:24 am)Brian37 Wrote: It should have been enough, with all the repetitive vile rhetoric coming out of the bully's mouth on Twitter multiple times a day, to deem him unfit. But what has been said in this report, is not a 100% vindication and once again, the orange asshole has to lie about it. This is not like when a jury says, "not guilty" and jurors get interviewed and directly confirm that. This report is more like a hung jury where many interviewed afterwords, the accused stunk like shit, but still wanted more to have a solid conviction.

An no, this is not a matter of wanting the office to fail, this for me is about the individual, the man, and his behavior alone. Gotti got away with alot before he was finally nailed. That is what we are looking at here. It is not a conspiracy on my part, the very fact that Mueller didn't come out and say he was 100% not guilty, as if DNA proved he was not the killer, says alot. This is more like in The First 48, when the detective question a bunch of people, including the person of interest, and still let him go because they still do not have enough. 

I do not fault Mueller one bit. But this is not over, not in the slightest. I am damned sure this more of a smart move on Mueller's part so that when 45 gets nailed by state investigators, Mueller cannot be painted as corrupt as the orange bully has wrongfully been calling him. 

If Dems are smart, they won't push this too far, because 45 will play victim in 2020 and use this. I think our best tactic now is to pound the fact that he and the GOP are going to try to gut social security and medicare, and pound his attacks on McCain. 

I would love to see the fucker impeached. But now, still have to wait for the report to come out, not this summery, and we also have to let the state investigations play out too.

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What happened with this report, was a lot like when I went to traffic court a long time ago. Before the judge got to mere traffic cases a couple hours were spent on criminal charges. Cab driver identified a suspect in the court as robbing him, problem was, he was the only witness, the accused had his entire family say he was watching TV and never left the house. True? Um maybe, maybe not, because based on what the judge said before dismissing the case, the judge himself said he thought the entire thing stunk. That says to me, that judge was probably privy to other prior arrests or convictions of the accused, but had no choice but to dismiss it. When a case isn't indicted, they are not saying the person cannot be indicted later, it merely means that the court wants a solid case that cannot be easily overturned upon appeal.

Are you stupid or did you not read the 4 page summary? this wasnot a hung jury thing this was there was absolutely no collusion found in trumps team what so ever thing. Are you so stupid as to thing the american people would allow a 2 year multi million dollar investigation op out with a 'hung jury?" what fake news station do you watch msnbc4? here try sourcing from a primary source once in a while rather than taking state propaganda as 100% truth!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019...eport.html

If the orange turd were The Beaver, or Mr Rogers, there would be NO NEED to put the words, "not fully exonerated".

Mueller is no dummy. He's like any good investigator, you let the suspect go and keep an eye on him. Which is why the cases not in this report are being farmed out to a few states where Mueller knows the federal laws cannot be swept under the rug by Barr.

And regardless....

If Obama had conducted himself on a daily basis using the same language rhetoric that bully has, the GOP would demand his head on a platter.

Mueller was personally attacked by name, by the POTUS, despite he is a republican too. That was tactical on Trump's part. Mueller isn't stupid, if he had gone out on a full out attack because of Trump calling Mueller corrupt, that would have been even more fuel for Trump to claim corruption.

But even without this probe. 

It is immoral and unethical to attack dead war heros while in office. It is immoral to attack your own intel in that office. It is immoral to kiss the asses of dictators on the global stage, while at the same time attacking your allies. 

But keep defending that asshole if you wish. That party beyond Trump by himself, are still looking to fuck over everyone on social security and medicare.

World's Best TV Lawyer Rudy G went on Fox and Friends to arglebargle about "outing" the person behind the investigation.... the admin isn't done trying to bury this, lol.

And right now Lindsey is on camera sucking up to the POTUS, just several days after the POTUS insulted a dead war hero, then goes to the WH to give the President a blowjob.

(March 25, 2019 at 11:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: And right now Lindsey is on camera sucking up to the POTUS, just several days after the POTUS insulted a dead war hero, then goes to the WH to give the President a blowjob.

Not sure if you noticed this, but I think I saw some brown stuff on Linsdey's nose.

(March 25, 2019 at 11:41 am)Equinox25 Wrote:

(March 25, 2019 at 11:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: And right now Lindsey is on camera sucking up to the POTUS, just several days after the POTUS insulted a dead war hero, then goes to the WH to give the President a blowjob.

Not sure if you noticed this, but I think I saw some brown stuff on Linsdey's nose.

You must be color blind, it is feces, but toxic nuclear waste orange feces. 

FUCK, I hate Youtube more and more every day. Cant find the Beavis and Butthead clip, where the FBI agent says, "Give them a full body cavity search, and don't stop till you reach the back of their teeth."

Point, is, that is how far up the orange turd's ass Lindsey has his head.

(March 25, 2019 at 11:53 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 25, 2019 at 11:41 am)Equinox25 Wrote: Not sure if you noticed this, but I think I saw some brown stuff on Linsdey's nose.

You must be color blind, it is feces, but toxic nuclear waste orange feces. 

FUCK, I hate Youtube more and more every day. Cant find the Beavis and Butthead clip, where the FBI agent says, "Give them a full body cavity search, and don't stop till you reach the back of their teeth."

Point, is, that is how far up the orange turd's ass Lindsey has his head.

I lol'd pretty hard at this because I actually am color blind.