Our nutter here doesn't actually believe in genetics or natural selection..so it's unlikely that he'd find any fact pursuant to either to be compelling.

I hope....but somehow don't expect, that he'd find it more worrisome to argue against the existence of fucking, chemistry, and computers.

(March 24, 2019 at 6:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 24, 2019 at 6:20 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Liar. This blatant lie has been pointed out to you over and over again. You keep on repeating it.


Like you he is a liar. Unlike you he has monetised his lies.


How exactly? You have never presented any argument for that. Ever. You simply assert it as you have been instructed by your "superiors" but never present any evidence. At best, you claim that YOU can't figure it out, therefore nobody can figure it out, therefore god. Not just any of the thousands of claimed deities, but your peculiar god.

Have you no clue how stupid that position is? Are you really that clueless?

It is too obvious that complex and functional information is designed not to believe it.  It is clear as day.  Some atheists may be lying about this.  I still believe that may be true.

(March 24, 2019 at 6:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is too obvious that complex and functional information is designed not to believe it.  It is clear as day.  Some atheists may be lying about this.  I still believe that may be true.

Yet you cannot even begin to support this nonsense by defining it. You cannot say what "complex" is or means, or what degree of complexity requires "design" and what does not. Therefore your entire argument fails. "Too obvious" is no argument *at all* .... anywhere, for anything. "Too obvious" is totally undefined and subject to your subjective interpretation.
You are also assuming, (wrongly), that at its fundamental level, quantum reality acts according to what is perceived as "intuitive" by human brains, which only observe the macro universe. Disputing your religious crap is not "lying".

(March 25, 2019 at 12:25 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(March 24, 2019 at 6:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is too obvious that complex and functional information is designed not to believe it.  It is clear as day.  Some atheists may be lying about this.  I still believe that may be true.

So your sole reason for claiming that DNA is proof of a creator is "It's just obvious".

Think about that for a moment. That's all you have as an argument. Does "It's just obvious" work in any other part of your life? What would happen if you walked into your bank and claimed your mortgage was null and void because "It's just obvious". What would the bank say?

Suppose you walked up on the forecourt of a car dealership and simply took a car for your self because you simply deserve it. Do you think "It's just obvious" would suffice as an excuse? What would the judge say at your trial to such a defense?

No, you are fully aware that "It's just obvious" is not a reason or an argument for anything because you would not use it IN ANY OTHER CONTEXT. You would be laughed out of town. Or lynched.

Knowing this, you still use it for your magic sky fairy without shame because you are fundamentally dishonest. Well tough. It is and remains just an example of the special pleading fallacy.

Consider, for a moment, what the consequence is of your bovine repetition.

Rainbows are caused by unicorn farts. "It's just obvious"

The universe was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster (bless his noodly appendage) "It's just obvious"

Jesus was a homosexual wet dream that Paul have on the road to Damascus. "It's just obvious"

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(March 24, 2019 at 9:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: DNA is in a sense a blue print. It contains instructions to make our body parts. Also, it is way more than that. Emedded in the code is the tool kit that executes that plan. This is all rolled into one molecule. Additionally, it functions as an information processor. This is all rolled into one.

LOL. You haven't a clue how DNA works or what it does. It's just obvious.

I provided plenty of proof and evidence in this thread including in written text, links, videos,...................

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(March 25, 2019 at 4:12 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(March 24, 2019 at 7:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I am not wasting anyone's time.  Just discussing the most important topic there is to discuss.

It's only important to brainwashed people like yourself.
Sadly, there are many equally brainwashed to think it's important.... so here we are, on an atheist forum, addressing the psychological fault that the topic takes advantage of.

This bit is obvious. Your mind is particularly receptive to the idea of the divine, because it was habituated to it since very early in your childhood. Regardless of how much "critical thought" you put in later in life, those early formative years decided your brain pathways.
That is why you say "it's obvious that DNA Proves Existence of a Designer" (paraphrasing here), while it's not obvious at all to anyone who's not brainwashed like you.

It's also obvious that your ignorance of basic human psychology facilitates your receptiveness to the unfounded notion of the divine.

I've studied human psychology on my own so I do not have an ignorance of that topic, sorry.  I am not brainwashed.  Some atheists on here appear to be brainwashed to me.

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(March 25, 2019 at 6:11 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:

(March 24, 2019 at 11:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote: This was a biologist with specialty in the cell.

That's nice, and?  As has already been explained to you, at length, it's not actually necessary to reject any of your foundational assertions in order to reject your conclusion.

Like I said, go listen to more biologists, it will be more productive.

(March 24, 2019 at 9:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: DNA is in a sense a blue print.

Fine, if you say so.  We're well aware of a process that can create these "blueprints".   When a mommy and a daddy love each other very much........

Quote: It contains instructions to make our body parts.

Fine, if you say so.  We're well aware of a process that provides this instruction.  Organic chemistry works.

Quote:Also, it is way more than that. Emedded in the code is the tool kit that executes that plan. This is all rolled into one molecule. Additionally, it functions as an information processor. This is all rolled into one.

Fine, if you say so.  We're well aware of a process that functions in this way.  Material interaction is the basis of computational architecture.

There is a creation so there is a Creator.  Come on now the evidence is crystal clear.  These are instructions to perform specific functions.  It is designed.

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(March 25, 2019 at 11:17 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(March 24, 2019 at 6:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It is too obvious that complex and functional information is designed not to believe it.  It is clear as day.  Some atheists may be lying about this.  I still believe that may be true.

Yet you cannot even begin to support this nonsense by defining it. You cannot say what "complex" is or means, or what degree of complexity requires "design" and what does not. Therefore your entire argument fails. "Too obvious" is no argument *at all* .... anywhere, for anything. "Too obvious" is totally undefined and subject to your subjective interpretation.
You are also assuming, (wrongly), that at its fundamental level, quantum reality acts according to what is perceived as "intuitive" by human brains, which only observe the macro universe. Disputing your religious crap is not "lying".

Again, I provided plenty of proof and evidence in text, links, videos,......  It's not my fault you ignored it.

(March 25, 2019 at 12:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I've studied human psychology on my own so I do not have an ignorance of that topic, sorry.  I am not brainwashed.  Some atheists on here appear to be brainwashed to me.

You must be thinking very highly of your own inability to self-psychoanalyze... LOL
You are brainwashed... and like a good brainwashed child, you can't recognize it.

Oh look, there is an idiot.
There must be an idiot maker.

(March 25, 2019 at 12:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: There is a creation so there is a Creator.  Come on now the evidence is crystal clear.  These are instructions to perform specific functions.  It is designed.

"There is ham therefore there is a hamburglar."

I take it that you had no specific objection to fucking, chemistry, and computers? If not, then neither these instructions nor this design is relevant to your hamburglarism.

You're a liar. You NEVER ONCE provided examples of what was complex, but not complex ENOUGH, so as not to need a designer.
You have no specific criteria. Your argument is not only bogus, but dishonest as the distinctions you PRETEND to have and employ, do not exist.
You cannot say what is and is not complex ENOUGH, and exactly what level of complexity requires a designer. "Obvious" is not good enough.  
You are incapable of doing this definition and sorting out the details. You're a fraud.

Actually he has, it's just that he immediately contradicted himself, lol.  You see...waaaaaay back in the beginning he was sure that there was dumb information that wasn;'t designed and smart information that was, but he later decided that even dirt was too complex. All of it requires a hamburglar...who loves guns and hates queers, allegedly.

All of this he knows..not for anything to do with dna or reason or evidence, but that said hamburglar gifted him with a magic hate ball that can predict the future.

(March 25, 2019 at 12:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(March 25, 2019 at 12:25 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: So your sole reason for claiming that DNA is proof of a creator is "It's just obvious".

Think about that for a moment. That's all you have as an argument. Does "It's just obvious" work in any other part of your life? What would happen if you walked into your bank and claimed your mortgage was null and void because "It's just obvious". What would the bank say?

Suppose you walked up on the forecourt of a car dealership and simply took a car for your self because you simply deserve it. Do you think "It's just obvious" would suffice as an excuse? What would the judge say at your trial to such a defense?

No, you are fully aware that "It's just obvious" is not a reason or an argument for anything because you would not use it IN ANY OTHER CONTEXT. You would be laughed out of town. Or lynched.

Knowing this, you still use it for your magic sky fairy without shame because you are fundamentally dishonest. Well tough. It is and remains just an example of the special pleading fallacy.

Consider, for a moment, what the consequence is of your bovine repetition.

Rainbows are caused by unicorn farts. "It's just obvious"

The universe was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster (bless his noodly appendage) "It's just obvious"

Jesus was a homosexual wet dream that Paul have on the road to Damascus. "It's just obvious"

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LOL. You haven't a clue how DNA works or what it does. It's just obvious.

I provided plenty of proof and evidence in this thread including in written text, links, videos,...................

No you didn't. Everything you put up was comprehensively shredded. Repeatedly.

It is not our fault that you lack the wit to understand the rebuttals.

Just look at your Adam and Eve crapfest. You are so dimwitted that you are unable to understand the very concept of mtEve.

If you have proven anything, it is that you are the real world equivalent of Cletus the slack jawed yokel. Even simple concepts are beyond you.

"DNA is like machine code" What a laugh. It isn't remotely like machine code. You haven't a clue why that is because you are totally ignorant of how both of them actually work.

DNA exists for one purpose only, a purpose it achieves rather well. That is to make copies of itself. It really doesn't do much else. And that is merely a matter of chemistry and no more. Outside of that DNA is rather surprisingly inert and boring.

And please explain why it is that science can create DNA millions of times more complex than your stupid sky fairy could manage? Doesn't that make it obvious that your magic fairy is inferior to us?