(April 10, 2019 at 8:01 pm)chimp3 Wrote:

(April 10, 2019 at 7:23 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I've seen diagrams with V'ger barely into the donut.

fb!

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(April 10, 2019 at 8:38 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(April 10, 2019 at 10:19 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: First ever black hole image released

Nice work by everone involved    

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47873592

To the BBC science writer:

That is not the image of the black hole.  It is the image of the accretion disk around the black hole.  Black hole by definition can’t be imaged.   It would have the same effect on any imaging sensor as if it was not there.   Saying the image of the accretion disk is the image of the black hole is like saying an image of Pluto is an image of the sun.

It is being taken as proof that black holes exist (along with SgrA* images), and that's good for the boffins. I don't think any knowledgeable person expected to actually see an object that can't be seen.

My gawd, that thing is mind-blowingly massive. 
(Talking about M87, fellas)

IDK, but it seems that it could take many years in proper time (as experienced by a person or planet within it) to reach the singularity.
Billions, maybe.

OMG...Could our universe exist inside a black hole lying within another universe?

We have been remiss.



Boru

I like to think that each SMBH is the "origin" of a Big Bang in the universe created by that monster. Time rate relative to that universe, of course. If true then each SMBH creates a new universe where SMBHs repeat the process. ENDLESS universes each cut off from all others.

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(April 11, 2019 at 8:31 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We have been remiss.



Boru

Actually, her picture is everywhere in the sciency world.

The memes regarding the black hole image are flooding my FB timeline. xD

(April 11, 2019 at 6:57 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(April 10, 2019 at 8:01 pm)chimp3 Wrote: fb!

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(April 10, 2019 at 8:38 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: To the BBC science writer:

That is not the image of the black hole.  It is the image of the accretion disk around the black hole.  Black hole by definition can’t be imaged.   It would have the same effect on any imaging sensor as if it was not there.   Saying the image of the accretion disk is the image of the black hole is like saying an image of Pluto is an image of the sun.

It is being taken as proof that black holes exist (along with SgrA* images), and that's good for the boffins. I don't think any knowledgeable person expected to actually see an object that can't be seen.

Proofs of black hole as conclusive as current state of physics allows have existed for decades.   This photo adds literally nothing to it. 

The best that current state of physics allows still permit what we believe to be black holes to actually be some other types of theoretically plausible exotic objects.  This photo also does not exclude these lingering doubts.

If that was all there was I might agree with you, somewhat.

(April 11, 2019 at 8:32 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I like to think that each SMBH is the "origin" of a Big Bang in the universe created by that monster. Time rate relative to that universe, of course. If true then each SMBH creates a new universe where SMBHs repeat the process. ENDLESS universes each cut off from all others.

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(April 11, 2019 at 8:31 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We have been remiss.



Boru

Actually, her picture is everywhere in the sciency world.

I meant here.

Boru

(April 11, 2019 at 8:31 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We have been remiss.



Boru

FAKE NEWS! HOAX!  Why isn't she barefoot in the kitchen cooking me dinner?

(April 11, 2019 at 12:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 11, 2019 at 8:31 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: We have been remiss.



Boru

FAKE NEWS! HOAX!  Why isn't she barefoot in the kitchen cooking me dinner?

She's out of cyanide and left to get more?