Trump made tons of enemies since he came to the White House.
If Mueller's report didn't bring him down; upcoming hits will.

For the report being made in the first place and for it to be "suppressed" by Trump means that his image as a president is over. Everybody knows and sees that this is a corrupt, vicious businessman now, but his supporters are paranoid people who think that Mexicans are going to eat them, so they choose the "corrupt vicious businessman to protect them from brain-eating Mexicans".

Mueller's report destroyed Trump's image before it even came out. If it got reveled fully; Trump will receive one hell of a hit. And other hits are coming.

(May 2, 2019 at 6:34 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Trump made tons of enemies since he came to the White House.
If  Mueller's report didn't bring him down; upcoming hits will.

For the report being made in the first place and for it to be "suppressed" by Trump means that his image as a president is over. Everybody knows and sees that this is a corrupt, vicious businessman now, but his supporters are paranoid people who think that Mexicans are going to eat them, so they choose the "corrupt vicious businessman to protect them from brain-eating Mexicans".

Mueller's report destroyed Trump's image before it even came out. If it got reveled fully; Trump will receive one hell of a hit. And other hits are coming.

He just seems to be able to brush anything off.

His supporters are now blind to everything except what he says.

Theyre not, that's just something a person tells themselves so that they feel better about trump supporters.  

They knew it was a snake before they picked it up, it just doesn't matter to them.  The politics of spite in action.

(May 3, 2019 at 3:06 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Theyre not, that's just something a person tells themselves so that they feel better about trump supporters.  

They knew it was a snake before they picked it up, it just doesn't matter to them.  The politics of spite in action.

I suppose that's true. It was obvious that he is an awful person who appeals to awful people.

I think most the people who gave their voice to Trump did so out of fear from what they viewed as a "bigger threat".

In other words; they chose "the lesser of the two evils", just like they're saying: "nobody is capable of protecting us from thugs but another thug".

I wish the people who gave him their votes begin to see the deep shit he got America into since he came into office and that he didn't protect them from anything; he only protected his own personal interests

(March 25, 2019 at 7:24 am)Brian37 Wrote: It should have been enough, with all the repetitive vile rhetoric coming out of the bully's mouth on Twitter multiple times a day, to deem him unfit. But what has been said in this report, is not a 100% vindication and once again, the orange asshole has to lie about it. This is not like when a jury says, "not guilty" and jurors get interviewed and directly confirm that. This report is more like a hung jury where many interviewed afterwords, the accused stunk like shit, but still wanted more to have a solid conviction.

An no, this is not a matter of wanting the office to fail, this for me is about the individual, the man, and his behavior alone. Gotti got away with alot before he was finally nailed. That is what we are looking at here. It is not a conspiracy on my part, the very fact that Mueller didn't come out and say he was 100% not guilty, as if DNA proved he was not the killer, says alot. This is more like in The First 48, when the detective question a bunch of people, including the person of interest, and still let him go because they still do not have enough. 

I do not fault Mueller one bit. But this is not over, not in the slightest. I am damned sure this more of a smart move on Mueller's part so that when 45 gets nailed by state investigators, Mueller cannot be painted as corrupt as the orange bully has wrongfully been calling him. 

If Dems are smart, they won't push this too far, because 45 will play victim in 2020 and use this. I think our best tactic now is to pound the fact that he and the GOP are going to try to gut social security and medicare, and pound his attacks on McCain. 

I would love to see the fucker impeached. But now, still have to wait for the report to come out, not this summery, and we also have to let the state investigations play out too.

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What happened with this report, was a lot like when I went to traffic court a long time ago. Before the judge got to mere traffic cases a couple hours were spent on criminal charges. Cab driver identified a suspect in the court as robbing him, problem was, he was the only witness, the accused had his entire family say he was watching TV and never left the house. True? Um maybe, maybe not, because based on what the judge said before dismissing the case, the judge himself said he thought the entire thing stunk. That says to me, that judge was probably privy to other prior arrests or convictions of the accused, but had no choice but to dismiss it. When a case isn't indicted, they are not saying the person cannot be indicted later, it merely means that the court wants a solid case that cannot be easily overturned upon appeal.

what a puppet. it's almost like you have a transcript of rachel maddow/madcow thoughts on this and just tweaked them just enough to make it yours. Do any of you reseach anything beyond the talking head on the same news who lied to you when they said it was going to be a clinton landslide?

How many times must they get things wrong before you begin to take their word with a grain of salt? How many times must a source like msnbc show it self to be untruth worthy before you cut it loose as a place to get the truth?

(May 9, 2019 at 1:59 pm)Drich Wrote: How many times must they get things wrong before you begin to take their word with a grain of salt? 

Mmmm. I would ask the same about you and Trump  .... Oh I forgot you support God 

(May 9, 2019 at 2:16 pm)madog Wrote:

(May 9, 2019 at 1:59 pm)Drich Wrote: How many times must they get things wrong before you begin to take their word with a grain of salt? 

Mmmm. I would ask the same about you and Trump  .... Oh I forgot you support God 

Sure ask away... about what exactly? What has trump lied about? what has trump got wrong? is a booming economy the evil that you speak of? is 65 year record low unemployment what trump is wrong with? did you know minority unemployment has never been this low since that stat has been recorded in this country???

Or do you mean the literal end of ISIS and the Taliban? what about mexico paying for the wall via the renegotiated Nafta trade agreement? maybe you mean having more contact and more to do with the denuclearization of north Korea than all other presidents combined?

Where do you see a failure or lie? do you mean the mueller report that literally says there was no trump russia collusion? or that says there can be no obstruction of justice if there is no under lining crime, meaning f there was 100% no collusion then obstruction of justice can not be considered as there was no justice being carried out!

Again share with me SOMETHING factual and I will help you see (with documentation) a fake news spin. which will only proove you are one of those people who single source their news from places like msnbc and shallow whatever they say hook line and sinker everynight right or wrong.

(May 9, 2019 at 2:24 pm)Drich Wrote:

(May 9, 2019 at 2:16 pm)madog Wrote: Mmmm. I would ask the same about you and Trump  .... Oh I forgot you support God 

Sure ask away...  

I just did, then you roll out 'fake news' .... I wasn't talking about the bible 

Quote:What has trump lied about? what has trump got wrong?...Again share with me SOMETHING factual and I will help you see (with documentation) a fake news spin.

Ok, spin this:

From Trump, 2 April of this year:

Quote:Puerto Rico got 91 Billion Dollars for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before, & all their local politicians do is complain & ask for more money. The pols are grossly incompetent, spend the money foolishly or corruptly, & only take from USA....

Politifact:

Quote:Puerto Rico has not received $91 billion...The federal government’s recovery website shows $40.7 billion has been allocated (Congress appropriated the spending) through December 2018. Of that, $19.4 billion has been obligated (the government has promised to spend the money) and of that $11.2 billion has been spent...A senior administration official told PolitiFact that Trump arrived at the $91 billion figure by combining the roughly $41 billion already allocated with additional estimated future FEMA costs of $50 billion. (The Washington Post’s Fact Checker wrote that the $50 billion was a high end estimate of what would need to be committed under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act of 1988.)

That means the $50 billion is speculative, said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense.

So, Puerto Rico did not 'get' $91 billion.  They've (so far) gotten $11.2 billion. The only additional monies your Congress has committed to spending are a further $8.2 billion. 

 He's also wrong when he claimed that the spending on Puerto Rico is a record.  So far, Congress has spent (not merely allocated or promised) $120 billion on Katrina.

Have fun with that.

Boru