I have gathered the evidence that the Koran is the Word of God. Whoever is interested, send me your email privately.

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(July 9, 2019 at 6:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(July 9, 2019 at 5:59 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: God does not need man to write a Book for Him, God Himself would. God reveals His Book (Word) to man so that he knows his Creator.

Doesn’t god want as many people as possible to be saved?

of course

(July 9, 2019 at 6:34 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: I have gathered the evidence that the Koran is the Word of God. Whoever is interested, send me your email privately.

There's a feature called "Private Messaging" here, you know.

Not that I'm interested. 
I'm not.


I'm just sayin'...

(July 9, 2019 at 7:02 pm)Athene Wrote:

(July 9, 2019 at 6:34 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: I have gathered the evidence that the Koran is the Word of God. Whoever is interested, send me your email privately.

There's a feature called "Private Messaging" here, you know.

Not that I'm interested. 
I'm not.


I'm just sayin'...

  Arabic email goes straight to the spam folder.

(July 9, 2019 at 6:34 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: I have gathered the evidence that the Koran is the Word of God. Whoever is interested, send me your email privately.

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(July 9, 2019 at 6:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Doesn’t god want as many people as possible to be saved?

of course

Why are you afraid to present your “proof” on the open forum?

Don’t send me messages. I’m not interested in learning about a religion where I have half the value of someone just because they have a dick.

(July 9, 2019 at 6:34 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: I have gathered the evidence that the Koran is the Word of God. Whoever is interested, send me your email privately.

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(July 9, 2019 at 6:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Doesn’t god want as many people as possible to be saved?

of course

Then why did he choose the least effective method; having men from one small region of the planet, in one specific and finite period of time, pass the story on for hundreds of years until some other men finally write it down in a language he knew would eventually die off; to get his message of salvation out to everyone who has ever lived and ever will live?  Can’t you see how little sense that makes? If god truly wishes for as many people as possible to be saved, the first (and perhaps the only necessary) logical thing for him to do is reveal himself plainly to everyone.

(July 9, 2019 at 8:12 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(July 9, 2019 at 6:34 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: I have gathered the evidence that the Koran is the Word of God. Whoever is interested, send me your email privately.

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of course

Why are you afraid to present your “proof” on the open forum?

Don’t send me messages.  I’m not interested in learning about a religion where I have half the value of someone just because they have a dick.

The article contains images and I do not know why it does not let me upload them. With the images the article is better understood. I want you to enjoy the article and understand it as best you can. If you are interested, I leave my email and I pass the article in WORD and someone uploads it to the forum to discuss it. What you say about the woman is false, the woman has the same value as the man in Islam.

(July 11, 2019 at 4:02 am)soldierofGod Wrote:

(July 9, 2019 at 8:12 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Why are you afraid to present your “proof” on the open forum?

Don’t send me messages.  I’m not interested in learning about a religion where I have half the value of someone just because they have a dick.

The article contains images and I do not know why it does not let me upload them. With the images the article is better understood. I want you to enjoy the article and understand it as best you can. If you are interested, I leave my email and I pass the article in WORD and someone uploads it to the forum to discuss it. What you say about the woman is false, the woman has the same value as the man in Islam.

You contemptible liar.  Your dishonesty is a stench in the nostrils of Allah!

Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females'  (Inheritance is based solely on sex, not ability or the ages of the heirs, or equality.  Men inherit twice as much as women.)

Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."  (The word of a woman in court is only half the value of the word of a man.)


Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]" (Still gonna hold onto that equality claim?)

Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it"  (If you shake hands - or have any other casual contact - with a woman, clean yourself with dirt.  Dirt is cleaner than women.)


Boru

(July 9, 2019 at 9:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(July 9, 2019 at 6:34 pm)soldierofGod Wrote: I have gathered the evidence that the Koran is the Word of God. Whoever is interested, send me your email privately.

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of course

Then why did he choose the least effective method; having men from one small region of the planet, in one specific and finite period of time, pass the story on for hundreds of years until some other men finally write it down in a language he knew would eventually die off; to get his message of salvation out to everyone who has ever lived and ever will live?  Can’t you see how little sense that makes? If god truly wishes for as many people as possible to be saved, the first (and perhaps the only necessary) logical thing for him to do is reveal himself plainly to everyone.

Before the revelation of the Qur'an, God revealed other messages to the ancient peoples to their respective languages. So everyone got the warning. The Message of Salvation was already transmitted to those who lived, for those who will live God completes His Final Message with the last Prophet (Muhammad) destined until the end of time and all places (all humanity). The last message is the Koran. It is what you say, God reveals His Message clearly to all, in all times and places, it is the only way. One of the few surviving languages of those times is Arabic. Latin, language of powerful Roman empire, died (dead language) while Arabic, language spoken by desert tribes was preserved by the Word of God. The last Message of God is completed in Mecca, the City of God, the Kaaba (cube) is His House. Mecca was the place where God spoke to man.

(July 11, 2019 at 7:09 am)soldierofGod Wrote:

(July 9, 2019 at 9:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Then why did he choose the least effective method; having men from one small region of the planet, in one specific and finite period of time, pass the story on for hundreds of years until some other men finally write it down in a language he knew would eventually die off; to get his message of salvation out to everyone who has ever lived and ever will live?  Can’t you see how little sense that makes? If god truly wishes for as many people as possible to be saved, the first (and perhaps the only necessary) logical thing for him to do is reveal himself plainly to everyone.

Before the revelation of the Qur'an, God revealed other messages to the ancient peoples to their respective languages. So everyone got the warning. The Message of Salvation was already transmitted to those who lived, for those who will live God completes His Final Message with the last Prophet (Muhammad) destined until the end of time and all places (all humanity). The last message is the Koran. It is what you say, God reveals His Message clearly to all, in all times and places, it is the only way. One of the few surviving languages of those times is Arabic. Latin, language of powerful Roman empire, died (dead language) while Arabic, language spoken by desert tribes was preserved by the Word of God. The last Message of God is completed in Mecca, the City of God, the Kaaba (cube) is His House. Mecca was the place where God spoke to man.

So, in other words, engaging you was a waste of time. Got it.

(July 9, 2019 at 4:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Can a man be three separate entities at once, and yet all one thing? Can people come back from the dead after three days? Of all the in-fighting among Christians regarding biblical interpretation, this seems to be the one supernatural claim everyone is happy to accept as literally true. How can a Christian poo-poo at the idea of a talking donkey, but not at the resurrection? Is it because that’s the one claim you HAVE to believe in order to call yourself a Christian? If so, that’s some rather circular reasoning.

Trinity- Yes. I am a father, brother, son, cousin, co-worker, etc.
Resurrection- While there are Lazarus stories in modernity, I don't believe three days of actual complete death could be come back from, unless it's a miracle. Between, people surviving death, people claiming experiences after death, people claiming to see spirits, miracle cures and the scientific of death being a moving target, sure resurrection might be possible. I believe that there's enough subjective belief in supernatural to make the supernatural more than likely.
Talking bushes and donkeys- I see no evidence that it can scientifically happen, but I don't poo-poo at it. I accept that it might not have happened but that it could have.

Yes to be considered a Christian one has to (I believe there might be one or two denominations that don't) believe Christ died and was resurrected in some way.