(December 9, 2019 at 7:35 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 7:30 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Nah White on Black violence as  Peruvian isn't Hispanic by default 

According to wikipedia any South American is Hispanic

lol, NOWHERE does Wikipedia say that.

Boru

(December 9, 2019 at 7:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 7:35 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: According to wikipedia any South American is Hispanic

lol, NOWHERE does Wikipedia say that.

Boru

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

Quote: The U.S. Census Bureau defines the ethnonym Hispanic or Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race"[37] and states that Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, any ethnicity.[38] Generically, this limits the definition of Hispanic or Latino to people from the Caribbean, Central and South America

(December 9, 2019 at 8:01 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 7:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: lol, NOWHERE does Wikipedia say that.

Boru

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

Quote: The U.S. Census Bureau defines the ethnonym Hispanic or Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race"[37] and states that Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, any ethnicity.[38] Generically, this limits the definition of Hispanic or Latino to people from the Caribbean, Central and South America

Lol your still wrong

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(December 9, 2019 at 7:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 7:35 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: According to wikipedia any South American is Hispanic

lol, NOWHERE does Wikipedia say that.

Boru

His response is a misrepresentation

(December 9, 2019 at 8:01 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 7:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: lol, NOWHERE does Wikipedia say that.

Boru

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

Quote: The U.S. Census Bureau defines the ethnonym Hispanic or Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race"[37] and states that Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, any ethnicity.[38] Generically, this limits the definition of Hispanic or Latino to people from the Caribbean, Central and South America

But that doesn't say that every person from South America is Hispanic.

Your ignorance must be a great comfort to you in times of trouble.

Boru

(December 9, 2019 at 8:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 8:01 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

But that doesn't say that every person from South America is Hispanic.

Wikipedia says that Zimmerman is Hispanic.

(December 9, 2019 at 7:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PHYSICALLY ASSAULT SOMEONE IN RETALIATION TO SPEACH.

Actually, you do.  If the speaker makes threats and you believe they are able to carry them out, physically defending yourself is permissible under the law.

Boru

Wrong.

There must be immenent threat. Future threat does not meet the threshold.

What legal training do you have in this?

Me - I have been through state mandated training for a concealed carry permit  at least a dozen times. (Only once is required)

(December 9, 2019 at 8:10 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 7:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, you do.  If the speaker makes threats and you believe they are able to carry them out, physically defending yourself is permissible under the law.

Boru

Wrong.

There must be immenent threat. Future threat does not meet the threshold.

What legal training do you have in this?

Me - I have been through state mandated training for a concealed carry permit  at least a dozen times. (Only once is required)

Yes, it has to be an imminent threat (left that bit out, sorry).

I have no legal training of any sort, but I have access to an extensive law library and am able to look things up.

Let's take a hypothetical:

Joe approaches Jim and says, 'I have a gun in my pocket.  In five seconds, I'm going to shoot you through the head.' Jim knows that Joe routinely carries a firearm and has found out that Jim is having an affair with Joe's wife.  Rather then wait out the five seconds, Jim charges Joe and beats him bloody.

Is Jim guilty of assault or has he acted in self defense?

Boru

(December 9, 2019 at 8:16 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 8:10 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Wrong.

There must be immenent threat. Future threat does not meet the threshold.

What legal training do you have in this?

Me - I have been through state mandated training for a concealed carry permit  at least a dozen times. (Only once is required)

Yes, it has to be an imminent threat (left that bit out, sorry).

I have no legal training of any sort, but I have access to an extensive law library and am able to look things up.

Let's take a hypothetical:

Joe approaches Jim and says, 'I have a gun in my pocket.  In five seconds, I'm going to shoot you through the head.' Jim knows that Joe routinely carries a firearm and has found out that Jim is having an affair with Joe's wife.  Rather then wait out the five seconds, Jim charges Joe and beats him bloody.

Is Jim guilty of assault or has he acted in self defense?

Boru

It depends....

If Joe doesn' t actually have a gun on his person - he just suckered Jim into physically assaulting him. Unless Jim can prove Joe made a credible threat ( akin to a bank robber saying he has a gun without showing it being charged with armed robbery) then Jim is likely facing prison time for assault.

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We can sit here and play hypotheticals all day - but situations like you describe almost never happen.

If somebody is really going to shoot you - they are not going to give you a heads- up to give you a chance to disarm them. That' s only in movies. Reall life - they shoot you first and then make snarky comments.

Quote:We can sit here and play hypotheticals all day - but situations like you describe almost never happen.

So in other words you have response

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(December 9, 2019 at 8:10 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:

(December 9, 2019 at 8:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But that doesn't say that every person from South America is Hispanic.

Wikipedia says that Zimmerman is Hispanic.

Lol this never goes well for you

(December 9, 2019 at 8:33 am)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:We can sit here and play hypotheticals all day - but situations like you describe almost never happen.

So in other words you have response

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(December 9, 2019 at 8:10 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Wikipedia says that Zimmerman is Hispanic.

Lol this never goes well for you

George Zimmerman's mother is Peruvian.


Not good enough for ya, huh?