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RE: By chance?
February 20, 2020 at 11:02 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2020 at 11:03 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You can always count on Bel to pop in after 40 pages of pure abrahamic derp to say that atheists are dumb dumbs who don't know shit.
Certainly seems to be the case for at least one atheist, I'll give him that.
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RE: By chance?
February 20, 2020 at 12:39 pm
(February 20, 2020 at 8:17 am)Belacqua Wrote: Creationists who haven't studied evolution sometimes ask "oh yeah, if people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? (check mate, atheist!)" The question reveals that they haven't studied the subject.
The questions "what caused the first cause?" or "who designed the designer?" are the equivalents in the field of theology. They show that the person asking doesn't understand the argument.
To be fair to atheists who don't understand theology, though, it's true that the majority of Christians don't understand it either. They are using a children's-level Sunday School version, and a lot of atheists assume that's all there is.
It's frustrating. It's like hearing an Ayn Randian and a Creationist debate Darwin, and neither one knows what they're talking about. Lemme guess, Bel is one (of the few?) who understands both. 
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RE: By chance?
February 20, 2020 at 1:12 pm
(February 20, 2020 at 12:39 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: (February 20, 2020 at 8:17 am)Belacqua Wrote: Creationists who haven't studied evolution sometimes ask "oh yeah, if people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? (check mate, atheist!)" The question reveals that they haven't studied the subject.
The questions "what caused the first cause?" or "who designed the designer?" are the equivalents in the field of theology. They show that the person asking doesn't understand the argument.
To be fair to atheists who don't understand theology, though, it's true that the majority of Christians don't understand it either. They are using a children's-level Sunday School version, and a lot of atheists assume that's all there is.
It's frustrating. It's like hearing an Ayn Randian and a Creationist debate Darwin, and neither one knows what they're talking about. Lemme guess, Bel is one (of the few?) who understands both.
When Bel signed up, I correctly identified him/her as a covert theist and was criticised for so doing. Yet here we are with mods doing the very same.
Odd, that.
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RE: By chance?
February 20, 2020 at 3:32 pm
You don't know, Jack.
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RE: By chance?
February 20, 2020 at 5:55 pm
(February 20, 2020 at 8:33 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Why couldn't some one who's partial to Ayn Rand's philosophical school also be a student of history and sociology? The same for some one who likes the creation mythos? Why can't people of such back ground hold meaningful discussions as to the character of Darwin?
I've never read Ayn Rand's own work.
Often enough, I've seen her followers use misinterpretations of Darwin to justify selfishness as social policy. Apparently they think that "only the strong survive" is Darwinian? Or that social "Darwinism" makes it morally OK for rich people to ignore the poor.
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RE: By chance?
February 20, 2020 at 7:29 pm
(February 20, 2020 at 5:55 pm)Belacqua Wrote: I've never read Ayn Rand's own work.
Often enough, I've seen her followers use misinterpretations of Darwin to justify selfishness as social policy. Apparently they think that "only the strong survive" is Darwinian? Or that social "Darwinism" makes it morally OK for rich people to ignore the poor.
Oh, sorry.
You mentioned Darwin, not his work innitially.
Yup. People speak out their @ss all the time.
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RE: By chance?
February 21, 2020 at 6:39 am
If only the fittest survive then there would only be one survivor each generation. Doesn't sound like a successful policy to me.
In point of fact we should say "fit to survive".
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RE: By chance?
February 21, 2020 at 6:49 am
Vast improvement. 
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RE: By chance?
February 21, 2020 at 7:00 am
(February 21, 2020 at 6:49 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Vast improvement.
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RE: By chance?
February 21, 2020 at 10:21 am
Evolution works with "good enough to breed" rather than "perfectly adapted"
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