(April 30, 2020 at 7:27 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:But we'll see what plays out anyway

Yup

Hehehehe are u feeling ok SUNGman... LoL... U actually agreed with something... No way
I was cracking up reading your typically lame one line dismissals. 

Then right at the end I was like WTF. Did he actually agree with something. Typically u would of said "nope"

But if u were objective and used the same criteria as u did with Pell then u would have to say Biden is guilty as well
Biden has 7 accusers. Pell only had one. Evidence against Pell was only the testimony of one person. Reade has other supporting evidence

So u really should be in disagreement yet and still... I disagree with your agreement... LoL

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(April 30, 2020 at 5:20 pm)brewer Wrote:

(April 30, 2020 at 3:18 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well


Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 
I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden
Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

But we'll see what plays out anyway

Sounds rational, but I'm not buying the metoo hysteria, any more than I buy the shewasaskingforit defense. I'll consider them on a case by case basis.

I think u misunderstood. I don't buy the metoo hysteria either. Case by case, presumption of innocence is the only way.

I was responding to the question on weather these accusations will affect Bidens chances of being elected
And I said that because people are sold into this metoo thing they may not vote for Biden because of these allegations (I didn't word it very well)

Quote:Hehehehe are u feeling ok SUNGman... LoL... U actually agreed with something... No way
I was cracking up reading your typically lame one line dismissals. 

If by typical online dismissal you mean pointing you that it's not uncommon for victims to go years to report and for valid reason and your plan about false accusers would scare off actual victims .I didn't realize stating facts was lame .But then again look who i'm talking too. 

Quote:Then right at the end I was like WTF. Did he actually agree with something. Typically u would of said "nope"

Only if you said something stupid which often do .Something so stupid that it requires no lengthy refutation as it's simply that dumb.

Quote:But if u were objective and used the same criteria as u did with Pell then u would have to say Biden is guilty as well

I do use the same criteria . I don't remember ever having judged Pells case or Bidens by number witness .I think both their victims deserve a investigation .There is of course the difference between Biden and Pell i regards to position but that's an aside , And even if Biden were found not guilty that doesn't mean he's innocent , And if i were being bias i would just assume Bidens guilty because i have said over and over on this forum. I hate Biden .

Quote:Biden has 7 accusers. Pell only had one. Evidence against Pell was only the testimony of one person. Reade has other supporting evidence

See above 

Quote:So u really should be in disagreement yet and still... I disagree with your agreement... LoL

Whatever floats your boat

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Quote:I think u misunderstood. I don't buy the metoo hysteria either. Case by case, presumption of innocence is the only way.

And you show your ignorance of metoo .

Technically, Biden has one rape accuser, and six of simple inappropriate physical contact. Cold comfort for those women he creeped out, I know, but it’s not the same as Reade’s claim.

To Biden's defense he didn't force her to sign a NDA, he didn't retaliate by threatening to sue her, he didnt call her names.

And looking at this recent statement by Biden, he's at least not impugning her motives in any way. At least that's something. I'm not sure if he's telling the truth, especially after this interview where he talks about his papers at the University of Delaware, but at least it's a step up from a lot of famous people accused of sexual assault.

(May 1, 2020 at 11:21 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: To Biden's defense he didn't force her to sign a NDA, he didn't retaliate by threatening to sue her, he didnt call her names.

Yes he's even dealing with his alleged sex crimes better than Trump.

(May 1, 2020 at 10:05 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Technically, Biden has one rape accuser, and six of simple inappropriate physical contact. Cold comfort for those women he creeped out, I know, but it’s not the same as Reade’s claim.

Oh ok. R u sure its rape cos i thought i heard sexual assault. She says he penetrated her with his finger. Is that rape. Im not sure of the legal definition of it anymore

But no lawsuit or criminal charges have been laid, true. Are the cops investigating it?

(May 1, 2020 at 3:06 pm)Agnostico Wrote:

(May 1, 2020 at 10:05 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Technically, Biden has one rape accuser, and six of simple inappropriate physical contact. Cold comfort for those women he creeped out, I know, but it’s not the same as Reade’s claim.

Oh ok. R u sure its rape cos i thought i heard sexual assault. She says he penetrated her with his finger. Is that rape. Im not sure of the legal definition of it anymore

But no lawsuit or criminal charges have been laid, true. Are the cops investigating it?

It probably is sexual assault and not rape. Honestly, I've tended to use the two terms more or less interchangeably. And, odds are, Reade's allegation was made public well after the statute of limitations expired. It would have been nice if they'd investigated it earlier, but, frankly, I've read enough about such cases to know that it's a crapshoot whether or not the cops would actually DO anything about it, so it's little wonder that many victims don't actually report what happened to them. Once again, here's an example of what happened to one of Dahvie Vanity of Blood on the Dance Floor's victims when they called the police shortly after her assault took place:




Why, yes, waiting twenty-odd years before going public with these claims DOES make it harder for anything to actually happen and it's absolutely horrible that it's unreliable enough that they feel they have to end up going this route, but it's depressingly understandable if you know how this tends to work.

(May 1, 2020 at 3:18 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(May 1, 2020 at 3:06 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Oh ok. R u sure its rape cos i thought i heard sexual assault. She says he penetrated her with his finger. Is that rape. Im not sure of the legal definition of it anymore

But no lawsuit or criminal charges have been laid, true. Are the cops investigating it?

It probably is sexual assault and not rape. Honestly, I've tended to use the two terms more or less interchangeably. And, odds are, Reade's allegation was made public well after the statute of limitations expired. It would have been nice if they'd investigated it earlier, but, frankly, I've read enough about such cases to know that it's a crapshoot whether or not the cops would actually DO anything about it, so it's little wonder that many victims don't actually report what happened to them. Once again, here's an example of what happened to one of Dahvie Vanity of Blood on the Dance Floor's victims when they called the police shortly after her assault took place:




Why, yes, waiting twenty-odd years before going public with these claims DOES make it harder for anything to actually happen and it's absolutely horrible that it's unreliable enough that they feel they have to end up going this route, but it's depressingly understandable if you know how this tends to work.

Yup the court system does not treat accusers well

Well what a hot interview of Joe Biden addressing the claims
The reporter really drills Joe for 18 minutes, asking some very difficult questions, frustratingly repeating questions
And how did Joe handle the pressure...






Joe Biden did very well, he destroyed her really. He gets frustrated a bit at the end with her silly repeat questions 
I don't think he shows any signs of guilt at all. He didn't hesitate or pause, he wasn't slow, he really did well

She hammered him with the "believeallwomen" thing and he smashed her right back. 
Actually not even sure how he pulled that off but she bought it and let it go eventually

Oh and a police report has been filed so his under investigation for sexual assault

And does the statute of limitations apply anymore for sexually assault cases? I thought they'd removed it all together