(June 13, 2020 at 6:26 am)UtilitarianDeist Wrote: BLM and Trump are both doing God's work to some degree .... as is every being in the universe ... not just humans.

Hi. U believe there is a God, right. And if your Christian u believe that God loves people, that he's omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and the rest.
Why then would he allow sin, pain, suffering and evil to prevail? If there really is God and Satan doing battle in a war of good and evil why is Satan winning?

He's a deist, not a christian.

(June 13, 2020 at 5:03 am)SUNGULA Wrote: So Agi spewing more mindless bullshit

https://nypost.com/2020/06/12/raz-simone...tles-chaz/

https://www.seattlemet.com/news-and-city...ascination

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hi..._amenities

https://komonews.com/news/local/seattles...-third-day

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/...-zone.html

https://www.insider.com/inside-chaz-seat...est-2020-6

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...taken.html

https://mynorthwest.com/1937349/opinion-...ous-zone/?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...ce-protest

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/6/11/s..._zone_near

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/...yhem-come/

https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown...omous-zone

https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/seattle-c...extortion/

https://komonews.com/news/local/look-pho...ne#photo-6

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...173968001/

https://q13fox.com/2020/06/12/looking-in...mous-zone/

https://boingboing.net/2020/06/12/seattl...eered.html

https://www.tulalipnews.com/wp/2020/06/1...zone-chaz/

(Lastly building a blockades to keep the cops out is a completely different affair then Trump's cruel attempt at keep asylum seekers out )

And it's like the right wing media would ever dishonestly edited something to suit there pro Trump talking points 

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new...mous-zone/

Whatever one thinks of the Chaz there has clearly been some spin on it

Well, those articles confirm what I said...

"A charismatic rapper has emerged as the assault-rifle-toting leader of a protester rabble that took over the streets around a now-vacant Seattle police precinct — a “cop-free” encampment that has been allowed to remain for four days and counting."

That's exactly who I was talking about, Raz Simone

"“We are the police of this community now,” one protester can be heard saying in a video posted on Twitter Friday, showing a fist fight between Simone and a ­graffiti artist."

And that describes what happens in one of the videos I posted.
Cheers for confirming that.

SUNGULA Wrote:But remember people video clips are the most reliable way to judge something because those are never misleading or are ever used to push a misleading narrative

Just like the video of George Floyd is used to push a narrative 

Quote:Well, those articles confirm what I said...

"A charismatic rapper has emerged as the assault-rifle-toting leader of a protester rabble that took over the streets around a now-vacant Seattle police precinct — a “cop-free” encampment that has been allowed to remain for four days and counting."

That's exactly who I was talking about, Raz Simone

"“We are the police of this community now,” one protester can be heard saying in a video posted on Twitter Friday, showing a fist fight between Simone and a ­graffiti artist."

And that describes what happens in one of the videos I posted.
Cheers for confirming that.

And you missed the point of my post completely

Congrats on that achievement

Quote:Just like the video of George Floyd is used to push a narrative 

You mean narrative police brutality is real

Thank all that is good and holy that the world has got FoxNews to give us fair, unbiased, honest reportage.

Lying Sacks Of Shit

Boru

(June 13, 2020 at 9:08 am)SUNGULA Wrote: And you missed the point of my post completely

Congrats on that achievement 

In an effort to make your ideological point u missed the fact that much of it repeated what i had already said

SUNGULA Wrote:You mean narrative police brutality is real

Cop brutality is the media source. The narrative is looting, rioting, vandalizing, anarchy and crime

But you obviously love your little liberal utopia state within a state. Let's see how the worlds youngest nation progresses...

Quote:In an effort to make your ideological point u missed the fact that much of it repeated what i had already said

Nope 

My point was this 

1. I never denied the videos were real my contention was that you were using them to push a dishonest narrative ,And i posted those links to show the situation was more nuanced than you were painting it ,And that the right had and will dishonestly frame what's going on .

2. You cherry picked my sources for stuff that supported your opinion and ignored everything else .Which is ironic considering you just tried accusing me of that

Quote:Cop brutality is the media source. The narrative is looting, rioting, vandalizing, anarchy and crime

Police brutality is a fact . All the things you mentioned are aside the central point nor do they refute it or the need to deal with it . Nor does it by the way refute my point about the right spinning a narrative .

Quote:But you obviously love your little liberal utopia state within a state. Let's see how the worlds youngest nation progresses...

Once again you show you have concept of political philosophy. I never argued it was a utopia nor is it Liberal . And it's only obvious in your rush to accuse me of bias and you only expose yourself . I posted those links to broaden the narrative it's sad you only picked out what you wanted to see .

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(June 13, 2020 at 3:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Thank all that is good and holy that the world has got FoxNews to give us fair, unbiased, honest reportage.

Lying Sacks Of Shit

Boru

Already cited that 

Not to mention if Agi read more carefully he see counters to his cherry picking

(June 13, 2020 at 5:47 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:In an effort to make your ideological point u missed the fact that much of it repeated what i had already said

Nope 

My point was this 

1. I never denied the videos were real my contention was that you were using them to push a dishonest narrative and i posted those links to show the situation was more nuanced than you were painting it ,And that the right had can and will be deceptive in their framing of this .

2. You cherry picked my sources for stuff that supported your opinion and ignored everything else 

3. It's ironic that it's in fact you who overlooked facts on the very points you were trying to push .Which suggests to me again you looked for what reinforced narrative and ignored everything else 

Quote:Cop brutality is the media source. The narrative is looting, rioting, vandalizing, anarchy and crime

Police brutality is a fact . All the things you mentioned are aside the central point nor do they refute it or the need to deal with it 

Quote:But you obviously love your little liberal utopia state within a state. Let's see how the worlds youngest nation progresses...

Once again you show you have concept of political philosophy. I never argued it was a utopia nor is it Liberal . And it's only obvious in your rush to accuse me of bias you only expose yourself . I posted those links to broaden the narrative it's sad you only picked out what you wanted to see .

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(June 13, 2020 at 3:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Thank all that is good and holy that the world has got FoxNews to give us fair, unbiased, honest reportage.

Lying Sacks Of Shit

Boru

Already cited that 

Not to mention if Agi read more carefully he see counters to his cherry picking

Whups. 

Boru

(June 13, 2020 at 6:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 13, 2020 at 5:47 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope 

My point was this 

1. I never denied the videos were real my contention was that you were using them to push a dishonest narrative and i posted those links to show the situation was more nuanced than you were painting it ,And that the right had can and will be deceptive in their framing of this .

2. You cherry picked my sources for stuff that supported your opinion and ignored everything else 

3. It's ironic that it's in fact you who overlooked facts on the very points you were trying to push .Which suggests to me again you looked for what reinforced narrative and ignored everything else 



Police brutality is a fact . All the things you mentioned are aside the central point nor do they refute it or the need to deal with it 


Once again you show you have concept of political philosophy. I never argued it was a utopia nor is it Liberal . And it's only obvious in your rush to accuse me of bias you only expose yourself . I posted those links to broaden the narrative it's sad you only picked out what you wanted to see .

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Already cited that 

Not to mention if Agi read more carefully he see counters to his cherry picking

Whups. 

Boru

It's cool   

It can reinforced enough

(June 13, 2020 at 5:47 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

Quote:In an effort to make your ideological point u missed the fact that much of it repeated what i had already said

Nope 

My point was this 

1. I never denied the videos were real my contention was that you were using them to push a dishonest narrative ,And i posted those links to show the situation was more nuanced than you were painting it ,And that the right had and will dishonestly frame what's going on .

2. You cherry picked my sources for stuff that supported your opinion and ignored everything else .Which is ironic considering you just tried accusing me of that

Quote:Cop brutality is the media source. The narrative is looting, rioting, vandalizing, anarchy and crime

Police brutality is a fact . All the things you mentioned are aside the central point nor do they refute it or the need to deal with it . Nor does it by the way refute my point about the right spinning a narrative .

Quote:But you obviously love your little liberal utopia state within a state. Let's see how the worlds youngest nation progresses...

Once again you show you have concept of political philosophy. I never argued it was a utopia nor is it Liberal . And it's only obvious in your rush to accuse me of bias and you only expose yourself . I posted those links to broaden the narrative it's sad you only picked out what you wanted to see .

How can the videos i posted be pushing a false narrative when your links confirmed it. I didn't cherry pick anything. 
All i did was looked at the first link and there it was, the exact same narrative, basically that this rapper has declared himself leader and enforcer of Chaz

Call it whatever u like SUNGs. Your defending it and obviously love it so we'll just have to wait and see how successful it is