(July 22, 2020 at 9:55 am)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote: Yes the Bible was written by men. But it's the word of God.
EDIT: and God is the origin of ethics. No one is more moral than Him

Until you're willing to question and/or challenge what you've been taught (from a very young age and given no alternative explanations or views) you might be better off emotionally continuing in your sheltered existence. I doubt that you were ever allowed to consider any thoughts/ideas outside of religion as acceptable.

(July 22, 2020 at 10:25 am)Eleven Wrote:

(July 22, 2020 at 10:23 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And why haven't we found out what that something more is?

Something more is just being greedy.

I give up. I will never understand atheism. It just seems like a sad life. And I know you guy's don't see it that way, and you probably think I'm stupid or delusional or both, but I can't help it. I just can't let go. Maybe it's the fact that if I created something and taught it for years and years to become something exceptional, and it went out into the world and completely undermined all that I'd taught it, then I went ahead and died to save it...I'd be a little miffed if it didn't show even the smallest bit of gratitude. And not only that but, turn it's back on me and say I didn't exist. 

I've learned a few things from you guys so thank you for the conversation (even thought you were secretly making fun of me). 

Bye, 
 Sharon-Rose

Naaa, drag her into the light I say, the sooner the better. Just pulling in this excellent image posted by Fake Messiah in the "laughing at religion" thread:

(July 22, 2020 at 10:51 am)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote: He said it Himself. He IS a selfish god.
He created the snake, yes. I don't know why but I can only guess. I can't pretend to know. But as they say, He has a plan.

"They" are making excuses for a story that makes no sense and shows a lack of planning.  Why create a world then destroy it with flood?  Because His plan was crap or His story has flaws.  The more we try to make sense of ancient myths, the deeper into nonsense we go.  That's why "they" cling to "I don't know, but He has a plan."

(July 22, 2020 at 11:20 am)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote:

(July 22, 2020 at 10:25 am)Eleven Wrote: Something more is just being greedy.

I give up. I will never understand atheism. It just seems like a sad life. And I know you guy's don't see it that way, and you probably think I'm stupid or delusional or both, but I can't help it. I just can't let go. Maybe it's the fact that if I created something and taught it for years and years to become something exceptional, and it went out into the world and completely undermined all that I'd taught it, then I went ahead and died to save it...I'd be a little miffed if it didn't show even the smallest bit of gratitude. And not only that but, turn it's back on me and say I didn't exist. 

I've learned a few things from you guys so thank you for the conversation (even thought you were secretly making fun of me). 

Bye, 
 Sharon-Rose

I think it's rather obvious that you don't understand atheism because you don't WANT to understand atheism.

In any case, when she gets around to the evolutionary psychology module, young Shazza might change her tune :prayer:

(July 22, 2020 at 11:24 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(July 22, 2020 at 11:20 am)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote:
I give up. I will never understand atheism. It just seems like a sad life. And I know you guy's don't see it that way, and you probably think I'm stupid or delusional or both, but I can't help it. I just can't let go. Maybe it's the fact that if I created something and taught it for years and years to become something exceptional, and it went out into the world and completely undermined all that I'd taught it, then I went ahead and died to save it...I'd be a little miffed if it didn't show even the smallest bit of gratitude. And not only that but, turn it's back on me and say I didn't exist. 

I've learned a few things from you guys so thank you for the conversation (even though you were secretly making fun of me). 

Bye, 
 Sharon-Rose

I think it's rather obvious that you don't understand atheism because you don't WANT to understand atheism.

I do. I want to ANSWERS before I die. (which is impossible but you have no idea how hard i'll try. I have a lot of curiosity it will probably be the end of me).
its 1:30 am here so I'm gonna get some sleep.

(July 22, 2020 at 11:20 am)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote: I give up. I will never understand atheism. It just seems like a sad life. And I know you guy's don't see it that way, and you probably think I'm stupid or delusional or both, but I can't help it. I just can't let go. Maybe it's the fact that if I created something and taught it for years and years to become something exceptional, and it went out into the world and completely undermined all that I'd taught it, then I went ahead and died to save it...I'd be a little miffed if it didn't show even the smallest bit of gratitude. And not only that but, turn it's back on me and say I didn't exist. 

I've learned a few things from you guys so thank you for the conversation (even thought you were secretly making fun of me). 

Bye, 
 Sharon-Rose

I am a rose of Sharon,
a lily of the valleys.

As a lily among brambles,
so is my love among maidens

Hmmm. . . .

(July 22, 2020 at 11:20 am)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote: (even thought you were secretly making fun of me). 

I was NOT secretly making fun of you.

@Shazzalovesnovels When God made everything ... that excludes himself, right?