Quote:628-year-old fake news: Scientists prove Turin Shroud not genuine (again)

In the latest, but almost certainly not final instalment, they have used modern forensic techniques to show that apparent blood spatters on the shroud could only have been produced by someone moving to adopt different poses – rather than lying still, in the manner of a dead and yet to be resurrected Messiah.

They concluded that two short rivulets of possible blood on the left hand of the shroud’s ghostly figure could only have been formed by someone who was upright with their arms at an angle of about 45 degrees.

This could be consistent with someone who had been crucified with their arms held in a Y shape. Unfortunately for shroud believers, however, the forearm blood stains would require the dead body to have been wrapped in the shroud with their arms in a different position – held almost vertically above their head, rather than at an angle of 45 degrees.

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Perhaps more difficult to dismiss than medieval bishops was the evidence of 20th Century scientists from the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, who were allowed to carbon date samples of the shroud in 1988.

After three separate tests in laboratories in Arizona, Oxford and Zurich, the scientists stated with 95 per cent confidence that the shroud dated from 1260-1390, (a date range which happened to include the first documented references to the cloth).

Counter-arguments, however, were marshalled - In 1998 it was reported that the office of Anastasio Alberto Ballestrero, the former Cardinal Archbishop of Turin, had issued a statement suggesting the carbon dating had somehow been interfered as a result of an "overseas Masonic plot"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...50101.html

(July 26, 2020 at 11:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "Were you there?"

"Were you?"

(July 26, 2020 at 11:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh, I am sure Catholics will accept these findings

Quote:628-year-old fake news: Scientists prove Turin Shroud not genuine (again)

In the latest, but almost certainly not final instalment, they have used modern forensic techniques to show that apparent blood spatters on the shroud could only have been produced by someone moving to adopt different poses – rather than lying still, in the manner of a dead and yet to be resurrected Messiah.

They concluded that two short rivulets of possible blood on the left hand of the shroud’s ghostly figure could only have been formed by someone who was upright with their arms at an angle of about 45 degrees.

This could be consistent with someone who had been crucified with their arms held in a Y shape. Unfortunately for shroud believers, however, the forearm blood stains would require the dead body to have been wrapped in the shroud with their arms in a different position – held almost vertically above their head, rather than at an angle of 45 degrees.

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Perhaps more difficult to dismiss than medieval bishops was the evidence of 20th Century scientists from the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, who were allowed to carbon date samples of the shroud in 1988.

After three separate tests in laboratories in Arizona, Oxford and Zurich, the scientists stated with 95 per cent confidence that the shroud dated from 1260-1390, (a date range which happened to include the first documented references to the cloth).

Counter-arguments, however, were marshalled - In 1998 it was reported that the office of Anastasio Alberto Ballestrero, the former Cardinal Archbishop of Turin, had issued a statement suggesting the carbon dating had somehow been interfered as a result of an "overseas Masonic plot"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...50101.html

(July 26, 2020 at 6:30 pm)Sal Wrote:

(July 26, 2020 at 11:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "Were you there?"

"Were you?"

"Yes" is the best answer.

(July 26, 2020 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: The current Republican conspiracy theory can be summed up in one word, "Obama!"

(July 27, 2020 at 6:28 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(July 26, 2020 at 6:30 pm)Sal Wrote: "Yes" is the best answer.

"Everything needed to make ME was there."  

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(July 26, 2020 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: The current Republican conspiracy theory can be summed up in one word, "Obama!"

Please! You'll notice that he did NOTHING to stop the last snowball Earth event.