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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 22, 2020 at 6:59 am
If they have hearings on this they'll have to call Simon Pegg and Nick Frost to give expert testimony.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 26, 2020 at 11:30 am
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Oh, I am sure Catholics will accept these findings
Quote:628-year-old fake news: Scientists prove Turin Shroud not genuine (again)
In the latest, but almost certainly not final instalment, they have used modern forensic techniques to show that apparent blood spatters on the shroud could only have been produced by someone moving to adopt different poses – rather than lying still, in the manner of a dead and yet to be resurrected Messiah.
They concluded that two short rivulets of possible blood on the left hand of the shroud’s ghostly figure could only have been formed by someone who was upright with their arms at an angle of about 45 degrees.
This could be consistent with someone who had been crucified with their arms held in a Y shape. Unfortunately for shroud believers, however, the forearm blood stains would require the dead body to have been wrapped in the shroud with their arms in a different position – held almost vertically above their head, rather than at an angle of 45 degrees.
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Perhaps more difficult to dismiss than medieval bishops was the evidence of 20th Century scientists from the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, who were allowed to carbon date samples of the shroud in 1988.
After three separate tests in laboratories in Arizona, Oxford and Zurich, the scientists stated with 95 per cent confidence that the shroud dated from 1260-1390, (a date range which happened to include the first documented references to the cloth).
Counter-arguments, however, were marshalled - In 1998 it was reported that the office of Anastasio Alberto Ballestrero, the former Cardinal Archbishop of Turin, had issued a statement suggesting the carbon dating had somehow been interfered as a result of an "overseas Masonic plot"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...50101.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 26, 2020 at 11:52 am
"Were you there?"
"Were you?"
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 26, 2020 at 6:30 pm
(July 26, 2020 at 11:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "Were you there?"
"Were you?"
"Yes" is the best answer.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 26, 2020 at 6:35 pm
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The current Republican conspiracy theory can be summed up in one word, "Obama!"
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 27, 2020 at 6:09 am
BBC has made an interesting video on QAnon and how it's mythology puts Trump as a hero and a messiah, and that COVID-19 is fake and invented to take him down as he tries to get rid of pedophiles in the mainstream media - or something like that. Seems like a real serious problem considering that they (BBC) claim how there will be at least 14 QAnon-ists on the ballot in the upcoming elections
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 27, 2020 at 6:23 am
(July 26, 2020 at 11:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh, I am sure Catholics will accept these findings
Quote:628-year-old fake news: Scientists prove Turin Shroud not genuine (again)
In the latest, but almost certainly not final instalment, they have used modern forensic techniques to show that apparent blood spatters on the shroud could only have been produced by someone moving to adopt different poses – rather than lying still, in the manner of a dead and yet to be resurrected Messiah.
They concluded that two short rivulets of possible blood on the left hand of the shroud’s ghostly figure could only have been formed by someone who was upright with their arms at an angle of about 45 degrees.
This could be consistent with someone who had been crucified with their arms held in a Y shape. Unfortunately for shroud believers, however, the forearm blood stains would require the dead body to have been wrapped in the shroud with their arms in a different position – held almost vertically above their head, rather than at an angle of 45 degrees.
****
Perhaps more difficult to dismiss than medieval bishops was the evidence of 20th Century scientists from the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, who were allowed to carbon date samples of the shroud in 1988.
After three separate tests in laboratories in Arizona, Oxford and Zurich, the scientists stated with 95 per cent confidence that the shroud dated from 1260-1390, (a date range which happened to include the first documented references to the cloth).
Counter-arguments, however, were marshalled - In 1998 it was reported that the office of Anastasio Alberto Ballestrero, the former Cardinal Archbishop of Turin, had issued a statement suggesting the carbon dating had somehow been interfered as a result of an "overseas Masonic plot"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...50101.html
I'm glad there's finally confirmation (from a cardinal, no less!) that overseas Masons possess a Radioactivity Decay Altering Device.
I suspected it all along.
Boru
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 27, 2020 at 6:28 am
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(July 26, 2020 at 6:30 pm)Sal Wrote: (July 26, 2020 at 11:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "Were you there?"
"Were you?"
"Yes" is the best answer.
"Everything needed to make ME was there."
(July 26, 2020 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: The current Republican conspiracy theory can be summed up in one word, "Obama!"
Please! You'll notice that he did NOTHING to stop the last snowball Earth event.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 27, 2020 at 6:51 am
(July 27, 2020 at 6:28 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (July 26, 2020 at 6:30 pm)Sal Wrote: "Yes" is the best answer.
"Everything needed to make ME was there." ![Razz Razz](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/razz.gif)
(July 26, 2020 at 6:35 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: The current Republican conspiracy theory can be summed up in one word, "Obama!"
Please! You'll notice that he did NOTHING to stop the last snowball Earth event. ![Tut Tut Tut Tut](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/tut-tut.gif)
I once saw a YouTube video (can’t be arsed to look for it right now) in which a Trump supporter demanded an explanation as to why Obama wasn’t ‘on the job’ in the White House to deal with the 9-11 attacks.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
July 28, 2020 at 6:57 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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