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So, we'll never see our loved ones again?
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 (August 10, 2020 at 1:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We could compare a living person to a dead one, that one sort of jumps right out, doesn't it? That doesn't speak to consciousness, we would say a sleeping person is unconscious, yet be off somewhere in a dream, being fully aware in this space to the point of remembering the experience, which shows there consciousness is somewhere, just not in body.  (August 10, 2020 at 2:05 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:Not the same thing.(August 10, 2020 at 1:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We could compare a living person to a dead one, that one sort of jumps right out, doesn't it? Someone asleep still has very clear & measurable brain waves. Besides, they're very much alive. This all stops post-mortem. RE: So, we'll never see our loved ones again?
August 10, 2020 at 2:22 pm
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2020 at 2:25 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 10, 2020 at 2:05 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:(August 10, 2020 at 1:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We could compare a living person to a dead one, that one sort of jumps right out, doesn't it? Firstly, it shows no such thing, as your dream is entirely contained to your body - and secondly...you may have already employed a meaningful equivocation. Have you ever seen a dead person do anything that would inform you that they are conscious, any of the things that living people do which inform you of the same? You asked me how I could know something..ultimately, the answer is the same way that I know anything else. You may disagree, but we shouldn't need to agree about what we know for you to understand how I know things. Do you know of some other way to know things?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: So, we'll never see our loved ones again?
August 10, 2020 at 3:25 pm
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(August 10, 2020 at 2:17 pm)Sal Wrote:(August 10, 2020 at 2:05 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: That doesn't speak to consciousness, we would say a sleeping person is unconscious, yet be off somewhere in a dream, being fully aware in this space to the point of remembering the experience, which shows there consciousness is somewhere, just not in body.Not the same thing. There have been cases of people undergoing brain surgery, having recollection of events that occurred while having absolutely zero brain activity. (August 10, 2020 at 2:22 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:*emphasis mine*(August 10, 2020 at 2:05 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: That doesn't speak to consciousness, we would say a sleeping person is unconscious, yet be off somewhere in a dream, being fully aware in this space to the point of remembering the experience, which shows there consciousness is somewhere, just not in body. See above.
You're willing to assert that people have done conversationally meaningful things.....while dead? Take your time. Don't commit in haste.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
"So we will never see our loved ones again?"
.... Go news bub.... Being a whiney cunt isn't likely to convince anyone into believing in whatever flavor of "afterlife" woo you're pedaling... Thought you should know.. (August 10, 2020 at 3:36 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You're willing to assert that people have done conversationally meaningful things.....while dead? Take your time. Don't commit in haste. What I have asserted is that consciousness doesn't required brain activity, therefore a person still exists while being for all intents and purposes 'clinically dead'. RE: So, we'll never see our loved ones again?
August 10, 2020 at 7:13 pm
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2020 at 7:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
-and that's an amazing thing to assert. We don't all believe you, as much as we might wish we did.
There's nothing that you can do to reduce or ameliorate this responsibility.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (August 10, 2020 at 7:13 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -and that's an amazing thing to assert. We don't all believe you, as much as we might wish we did. Not really, when you consider that an assertion is simply a statement with no supporting evidence or proof. I assert that I am the Queen of Potsdorf. See how easy? Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
 (August 10, 2020 at 7:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(August 10, 2020 at 7:13 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -and that's an amazing thing to assert. We don't all believe you, as much as we might wish we did. Must we know address you as Her Majesty? That may be all wrong - I seldom address royalty.
What fresh hell can this be? - Dorothy Parker
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