(August 31, 2020 at 5:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 31, 2020 at 4:50 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: No.

It wouldn't.

The technology is not anywhere near a level needed to do so.

But it will be.

Boru

Maybe.

Maybe not.

My bet - the platform will be obsolete before the needed AI is developed to make it airworthy without a pilot.

(August 31, 2020 at 6:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(August 31, 2020 at 5:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But it will be.

Boru

Maybe.

Maybe not.

My bet - the platform will be obsolete before the needed AI is developed to make it airworthy without a pilot.

‘They’ll never get that sucker off the ground.’ - Bystander at Kitty Hawk, 1903

‘They’ll never get that big sucker off the ground.’ - Bystander at Cape Canaveral, 1969

Boru

(August 31, 2020 at 6:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 31, 2020 at 6:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Maybe.

Maybe not.

My bet - the platform will be obsolete before the needed AI is developed to make it airworthy without a pilot.

‘They’ll never get that sucker off the ground.’ - Bystander at Kitty Hawk, 1903

‘They’ll never get that big sucker off the ground.’ - Bystander at Cape Canaveral, 1969

Boru

 Have no doubt it will fly.

I am willing to bet I could fly it easily.

That's no feat.


But watch it fly itself?


Yeah... Sure.


When computers are bug free.

(August 31, 2020 at 6:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(August 31, 2020 at 6:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ‘They’ll never get that sucker off the ground.’ - Bystander at Kitty Hawk, 1903

‘They’ll never get that big sucker off the ground.’ - Bystander at Cape Canaveral, 1969

Boru

 Have no doubt it will fly.

I am willing to bet I could fly it easily.

That's no feat.


But watch it fly itself?


Yeah... Sure.


When computers are bug free.

Why couldn't it fly itself?  Fully autonomous drone technology already exists, the question is simply one of scale.  No tech breakthroughs required.

As for bug-free, there are no fool-proof systems. But there's no barrier to making personal air travel as safe as personal ground travel.

Boru

(August 31, 2020 at 6:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 31, 2020 at 6:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:  Have no doubt it will fly.

I am willing to bet I could fly it easily.

That's no feat.


But watch it fly itself?


Yeah... Sure.


When computers are bug free.

Why couldn't it fly itself?  Fully autonomous drone technology already exists, the question is simply one of scale.  No tech breakthroughs required.

As for bug-free, there are no fool-proof systems. But there's no barrier to making personal air travel as safe as personal ground travel.

Boru

Good news though, computers never get drunk or tired.

That picture is from the new Star Wars ....shhhhhhh

(August 31, 2020 at 6:56 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote:

(August 31, 2020 at 6:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Why couldn't it fly itself?  Fully autonomous drone technology already exists, the question is simply one of scale.  No tech breakthroughs required.

As for bug-free, there are no fool-proof systems. But there's no barrier to making personal air travel as safe as personal ground travel.

Boru

Good news though, computers never get drunk or tired.

The amount of stuff that can go wrong with machine intelligence is staggering. Any piece of hardware (and software) that increases in sophistication takes comparatively that more safeguards as well as fail-safes along with increasingly more testing and development the more sophisticated it gets. We're nowhere near an A.I. good enough for a fully automated driving vehicle. There are stretches of roads they got down, but places where the real tests are, like unmarked dirt roads or what have you, will make or break all autonomous vehicles.

I reckon we'll be closer to an A.G.I. before then.

(August 31, 2020 at 7:31 pm)Sal Wrote:

(August 31, 2020 at 6:56 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Good news though, computers never get drunk or tired.

The amount of stuff that can go wrong with machine intelligence is staggering. Any piece of hardware (and software) that increases in sophistication takes comparatively that more safeguards as well as fail-safes along with increasingly more testing and development the more sophisticated it gets. We're nowhere near an A.I. good enough for a fully automated driving vehicle. There are stretches of roads they got down, but places where the real tests are, like unmarked dirt roads or what have you, will make or break all autonomous vehicles.

I reckon we'll be closer to an A.G.I. before then.

In a lot of ways computers are already better than people. If we had more data I would bet that actuarial charts would bear out that the risk is low. The problem is that people have a miss-guided idea that machines are somehow perfect and fail to understand that ANY process has a failure rate. I'm an engineering technician in a research lab at Intel. I know of so many things that can cause havoc in the second level interconnect alone. Add software issues and those problems increase, but the good thing is that redundancies and the shear computational speed can overcome many of those problems.

(August 31, 2020 at 6:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 31, 2020 at 6:36 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:  Have no doubt it will fly.

I am willing to bet I could fly it easily.

That's no feat.


But watch it fly itself?


Yeah... Sure.


When computers are bug free.

Why couldn't it fly itself?  Fully autonomous drone technology already exists, the question is simply one of scale.  No tech breakthroughs required.

As for bug-free, there are no fool-proof systems. But there's no barrier to making personal air travel as safe as personal ground travel.

Boru

Sure autonomous drones exist.

And when one goes down - nobody dies.

And they do go down - frequently.


Add a person to that equation and you are on a different level.

I've been waiting for a Jetson's car since I was a kid.

But only if it makes that cool sound.