Claiming ethnicity is not about where your ancestors came from.

It is picking a period of time - and saying "my family starts here." It is also denying that the group you pick as ancestors (geoligically) were once immigrants to that area.

The Irish did not evolve in Ireland.

So if you identify as "white" you are denying your oldest ancestors - the humans that evolved in the Rift Valley in Africa.

And - as old time racists noted - one drop of black blood makes you black........

Conclusion - we're all black....


So what's all the commotion?

(September 2, 2020 at 7:50 am)onlinebiker Wrote: So what's all the commotion?

If you have to ask, you're still part of the problem.

I don’t pick my ancestors geoligically [sic]. I’m only very distantly related to basalt.

The problem is that people who look like their ancestors came from the Rift Valley are treated badly. The notion that there’s no such thing as ethnicity and that it doesn’t matter is just pretty fucking stupid.

Boru

(September 2, 2020 at 7:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I don’t pick my ancestors geoligically [sic]. I’m only very distantly related to basalt.

The problem is that people who look like their ancestors came from the Rift Valley are treated badly. The notion that there’s no such thing as ethnicity and that it doesn’t matter is just pretty fucking stupid.

Boru

And as long as people have your attitude - "race" will be a problem....

Only by realizing that all people have common ancestors and are equal does the problem go away.

(September 2, 2020 at 8:03 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(September 2, 2020 at 7:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I don’t pick my ancestors geoligically [sic]. I’m only very distantly related to basalt.

The problem is that people who look like their ancestors came from the Rift Valley are treated badly. The notion that there’s no such thing as ethnicity and that it doesn’t matter is just pretty fucking stupid.

Boru

And as long as people have your attitude - "race" will be a problem....

Only by realizing that all people have common ancestors and are equal does the problem go away.

Race and ethnicity aren’t the same thing.

Boru

(September 2, 2020 at 8:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(September 2, 2020 at 8:03 am)onlinebiker Wrote: And as long as people have your attitude - "race" will be a problem....

Only by realizing that all people have common ancestors and are equal does the problem go away.

Race and ethnicity aren’t the same thing.

Boru

True - race is simply picking an earlier point in time than ethnicity.

Somehow I think you might be uncomfortable with the FACT that you, I, OJ Simpson and President Trump all came from the same ancestors.


Sorry cousin - we did....

So ....... there's no problem in America? good to know ...

(September 2, 2020 at 8:11 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(September 2, 2020 at 8:04 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Race and ethnicity aren’t the same thing.

Boru

True - race is simply picking an earlier point in time than ethnicity.

Somehow I think you might be uncomfortable with the FACT that you, I, OJ Simpson and President Trump all came from the same ancestors.


Sorry cousin - we did....

Nope, not uncomfortable with that at all- one human 'race', full stop. But you, I, OJ Simpson and President Trump all come from different cultural backgrounds and social groups with which we identify.  That's what ethnicity is.

I understand and agree with your point that there's nothing of any biological significance about ethnicities. But ethnic groups are primarily cultural, not biological.

Boru

White people don't have the same problems as black people, it's a simple fact.

It's the same fact that separates rich people from poor people.

(September 2, 2020 at 8:15 am)ignoramus Wrote: So ....... there's no problem in America?     good to know ...

I didn't say that - now did I?

I said we are all black - by a racist definition...