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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 10:39 am
(January 7, 2021 at 10:33 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Performative language. Just as their "personal relationship with jesus" should not be taken to mean that they sit the fucker down for tea and have a chat.
They're identifying themselves and affirming their belief with the use of perfunctory utterances. The statement is not truth evaluable on it's own because it doesn't report what it purports to report..rather, it reports something else.
Maybe they just like having me on, but this is almost precisely the answer I get when I ask them in all earnestness. Minus the tea, of course, but they seem convinced (or at least they want to convince me) that they have a two way conversation. Oh, I've tried to puncture this façade, but many seem determined to keep it up. Maybe just so they can sleep comfortably.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 10:47 am
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They say it because the underlying thing being misrepresented likely -is- true, even if it's only a one line item description of themselves. Earnest, not cynical loons. They earnestly use the expression as performative language.
They are not reporting paranoid delusions or schizophrenia.
They may not be as earnest when they argue with you about it, ofc....because they know that too.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 11:50 am
I served in the Navy, '72-'76. In my rating, there were few guys who even went to services on Sunday. I was in a medical holding company in '74 after my ruptured appendix was removed, and one buddy who was an electronics tech kept trying to get me to go to one of his religious meetings. Wasn't happening. The "A" school for electronics techs was rampant with christ-punchers, though. My eldest son is currently in the Air Force, and lives off base specifically because senior NCOs keep rounding up the lower echelons for bible study whenever they can.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 12:06 pm
Yeah, bible study was a big issue when I was in. Our NCO's weren't the jesusy ones, though, so we didn't have to deal with it. I assume that it became an issue as the pipe closed upstream - but I didn't make it a career so all of my memories and ideas about the service are from a great unit that wasn't representative of the problems in todays military....it was there, on it's way, creeping forward then (now lurching).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 12:07 pm
Calls for invoking the 25th Amendment, most from Democrats. https://constitutioncenter.org/interacti...ndment-xxv
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 12:09 pm
(January 7, 2021 at 11:50 am)Fireball Wrote: I served in the Navy, '72-'76. In my rating, there were few guys who even went to services on Sunday. I was in a medical holding company in '74 after my ruptured appendix was removed, and one buddy who was an electronics tech kept trying to get me to go to one of his religious meetings. Wasn't happening. The "A" school for electronics techs was rampant with christ-punchers, though. My eldest son is currently in the Air Force, and lives off base specifically because senior NCOs keep rounding up the lower echelons for bible study whenever they can.
I joined '69, fourteen hours after graduating from high school. In boot camp I was ordered to attend a church service each week. I hope my snores weren't disruptive.
After boot camp I put "Zoroastrian" in the "Religion" box.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 12:14 pm
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That was still the easiest way to deal with it in the aughts. Make a competing positive religious claim.
I wonder whether christians think much about requiring a person to make a religious profession that they don't believe in?
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January 7, 2021 at 12:17 pm
"They're gittin' it wrong, but their hearts in the right place."
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 12:57 pm
(January 7, 2021 at 12:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I joined '69, fourteen hours after graduating from high school. In boot camp I was ordered to attend a church service each week. I hope my snores weren't disruptive.
After boot camp I put "Zoroastrian" in the "Religion" box.
I wonder how many people who read that even knew what it was. I've mentioned that religion to several Christians and none of them had ever heard of it. And why would they, they never questioned their religion of birth.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
January 7, 2021 at 1:14 pm
(January 7, 2021 at 12:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (January 7, 2021 at 11:50 am)Fireball Wrote: I served in the Navy, '72-'76. In my rating, there were few guys who even went to services on Sunday. I was in a medical holding company in '74 after my ruptured appendix was removed, and one buddy who was an electronics tech kept trying to get me to go to one of his religious meetings. Wasn't happening. The "A" school for electronics techs was rampant with christ-punchers, though. My eldest son is currently in the Air Force, and lives off base specifically because senior NCOs keep rounding up the lower echelons for bible study whenever they can.
I joined '69, fourteen hours after graduating from high school. In boot camp I was ordered to attend a church service each week. I hope my snores weren't disruptive.
After boot camp I put "Zoroastrian" in the "Religion" box.
I got you both beat. I washed out of Air Force basic.
Actually the physical aspect of it was easy. But prior to going in, I had a childhood of being bullied, so it was no fun being yelled at, being called a pile of shit from 5am to 10pm every day.
I actually liked the physical training, because they combined platoons so the crowd was so large odds a Drill Instructor singling you out was low.
I have to admit, I couldn't handle it. Not everyone is cut out for it. But I am damned glad there are people who can and did.
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