(March 27, 2021 at 4:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 4:46 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: So you would speak out with equal outrage if someone on this forum on this forum pushes the stereotype all politicians are liars. I have yet to see that, And no it took me 2 seconds to see the difference between an occupation something someone does to race something someone is. Directing generalized criticism at a position of power or an occupation of power is not the same as directing it at a person. So try again. You almost have your Blue Lives Matter merit badge.

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Again your confusing the person for the occupation

For your outrage, and inability to pick up on the actual meaning of a post...words being difficult and all, I award thee:

For your outrage an inability to actually come up with an actual response to my post and instead resorting to childish insults because thinking is difficult and all, I award thee:



What? It's just as silly as calling me an SJW 

(March 27, 2021 at 4:46 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 4:15 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: No dumbass - Using "all" isn't appropriate.  Not all any group of people are the same.  

Took hours for you to come up with that?  Try again.  You almost have your SJW merit badge.

So you would speak out with equal outrage if someone on this forum on this forum pushes the stereotype all politicians are liars. I have yet to see that, And no it took me 2 seconds to see the difference between an occupation something someone does to race something someone is. Directing generalized criticism at a position of power or an occupation of power is not the same as directing it at a person. So try again. You almost have your Blue Lives Matter merit badge.

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(March 27, 2021 at 4:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course you can be bigoted about an occupation. The nonsensical statement, ‘All cops are evil’ is a bigoted statement.

In fact, the word means to have an unreasonable animus towards people based on their membership in a particular group. I can’t see that it matters if that group is a race, a religion, or a profession.

Boru

Again your confusing the person for the occupation

Not a bit of it. If you have an animus against cops, you’re having a problem with an entire group of people based solely on their occupation. ‘All cops are corrupt’ is an indictment of the occupation, since it applies equally to white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, and so on. The bigotry is directed not at the people, but at what they do for a living.

Boru

(March 27, 2021 at 4:59 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 4:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: For your outrage, and inability to pick up on the actual meaning of a post...words being difficult and all, I award thee:

For your outrage an inability to actually come up with an actual response to my post and instead resorting to childish insults because thinking is difficult and all, I award thee:



What? It's just as silly as calling me an SJW 

If you think MAGA applies to this old hippie, you are dumber than I thought.  I didn't think that was possible.

Here's an alternative badge for you:

(March 27, 2021 at 5:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 4:46 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: So you would speak out with equal outrage if someone on this forum on this forum pushes the stereotype all politicians are liars. I have yet to see that, And no it took me 2 seconds to see the difference between an occupation something someone does to race something someone is. Directing generalized criticism at a position of power or an occupation of power is not the same as directing it at a person. So try again. You almost have your Blue Lives Matter merit badge.

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Again your confusing the person for the occupation

Not a bit of it. If you have an animus against cops, you’re having a problem with an entire group of people based solely on their occupation. ‘All cops are corrupt’ is an indictment of the occupation, since it applies equally to white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, and so on. The bigotry is directed not at the people, but at what they do for a living.

Boru

Nope, you're attacking the position, not the person. You're attacking the job not the person doing it. All cops are evil is an indictment of the organization not the people in it. So no it's not attacking white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, it's attacking the position wholly apart from those attributes.

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(March 27, 2021 at 5:13 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 4:59 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: For your outrage an inability to actually come up with an actual response to my post and instead resorting to childish insults because thinking is difficult and all, I award thee:



What? It's just as silly as calling me an SJW 

If you think MAGA applies to this old hippie, you are dumber than I thought.  I didn't think that was possible.

Here's an alternative badge for you:

Which is why I explicitly said calling you a MAGA supporter is just as silly as calling me an SJW 

What was that about not getting a post? And then having the gall to call me the dumb one

Here this is for you 



Again it's just as silly as calling me a female SJW

(March 27, 2021 at 5:24 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 5:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not a bit of it. If you have an animus against cops, you’re having a problem with an entire group of people based solely on their occupation. ‘All cops are corrupt’ is an indictment of the occupation, since it applies equally to white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, and so on. The bigotry is directed not at the people, but at what they do for a living.

Boru

Nope, you're attacking the position, not the person. You're attacking the job not the person doing it. All cops are evil is an indictment of the organization not the people in it. So no I'm not attacking white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, I'm attacking the position wholly apart from those attributes.

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I’m confused. Earlier, you said one can’t be bigoted against an occupation. Now, you say you’re attacking the position. Are you differentiating between ‘occupation’ and ‘position’?

Whether you are or not, I fail to see how it helps your argument. With very rare exceptions (dog units, police robots), cops are human beings. I’m not aware of a Platonic ideal of ‘police officer’. How can you attack the position of ‘cop’ without being prejudicial to the people performing those duties?

Boru

(March 27, 2021 at 5:24 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 5:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not a bit of it. If you have an animus against cops, you’re having a problem with an entire group of people based solely on their occupation. ‘All cops are corrupt’ is an indictment of the occupation, since it applies equally to white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, and so on. The bigotry is directed not at the people, but at what they do for a living.

Boru

Nope, you're attacking the position, not the person. You're attacking the job not the person doing it. All cops are evil is an indictment of the organization not the people in it. So no it's not attacking white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, it's attacking the position wholly apart from those attributes.

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(March 27, 2021 at 5:13 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If you think MAGA applies to this old hippie, you are dumber than I thought.  I didn't think that was possible.

Here's an alternative badge for you:

Which is why I explicitly said calling you a MAGA supporter is just as silly as calling me an SJW 

What was that about not getting a post? And then having the gall to call me the dumb one

Here this is for you 



Again it's just as silly as calling me a female SJW

Technically I am Catholic.
And I am pro-life, just not anti-abortion.

Try harder.

(March 27, 2021 at 5:45 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 5:24 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope, you're attacking the position, not the person. You're attacking the job not the person doing it. All cops are evil is an indictment of the organization not the people in it. So no I'm not attacking white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, I'm attacking the position wholly apart from those attributes.

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I’m confused. Earlier, you said one can’t be bigoted against an occupation. Now, you say you’re attacking the position. Are you differentiating between ‘occupation’ and ‘position’?

Whether you are or not, I fail to see how it helps your argument. With very rare exceptions (dog units, police robots), cops are human beings. I’m not aware of a Platonic ideal of ‘police officer’. How can you attack the position of ‘cop’ without being prejudicial to the people performing those duties?

Boru

Maybe an example would help.

Let's say we have Sam. Sam is a wonderful person he donates blood and gives cookies to old ladies. Sams's occupation is as a police officer who by the very nature of American policing enforces state violence disproportionately against the poor and minorities. Sam doesn't like this but his duty and organization demands it. Sam wouldn't be patrolling a poor area of town to bust some young black men for dealing weed. The police officer as an enforcer of irrational and frankly draconian drug laws will. If I said all cops were evil. I'm talking about the former not the latter. Karl is still a wonderful person. The police officer is an enforcer of state violence and the organization of the police makes that possible.

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(March 27, 2021 at 6:10 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 5:24 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope, you're attacking the position, not the person. You're attacking the job not the person doing it. All cops are evil is an indictment of the organization not the people in it. So no it's not attacking white cops, black cops, Asian cops, Algerian cops, Buddhist cops, vegan cops, it's attacking the position wholly apart from those attributes.

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Which is why I explicitly said calling you a MAGA supporter is just as silly as calling me an SJW 

What was that about not getting a post? And then having the gall to call me the dumb one

Here this is for you 



Again it's just as silly as calling me a female SJW

Technically I am Catholic.
And I am pro-life, just not anti-abortion.

Try harder.

Why I already won? The first button I posted more than did the trick showing how silly the comparison was. From there were just dicking around. But if wanna keep playing this silly game of vapid name-calling here 

Can I still like dancing traffic cops even if they're doing a shitty job?

(March 27, 2021 at 7:50 pm)brewer Wrote: Can I still like dancing traffic cops even if they're doing a shitty job?

I'll grant that's damn impressive 

(March 27, 2021 at 7:33 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:

(March 27, 2021 at 5:45 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m confused. Earlier, you said one can’t be bigoted against an occupation. Now, you say you’re attacking the position. Are you differentiating between ‘occupation’ and ‘position’?

Whether you are or not, I fail to see how it helps your argument. With very rare exceptions (dog units, police robots), cops are human beings. I’m not aware of a Platonic ideal of ‘police officer’. How can you attack the position of ‘cop’ without being prejudicial to the people performing those duties?

Boru

Maybe an example would help.

Let's say we have Sam. Sam is a wonderful person he donates blood and gives cookies to old ladies. Sams's occupation is as a police officer who by the very nature of American policing enforces state violence disproportionately against the poor and minorities. Sam doesn't like this but his duty and organization demands it. Sam wouldn't be patrolling a poor area of town to bust some young black men for dealing weed. The police officer as an enforcer of irrational and frankly draconian drug laws will. If I said all cops were evil. I'm talking about the former not the latter. Karl is still a wonderful person. The police officer is an enforcer of state violence and the organization of the police makes that possible.

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(March 27, 2021 at 6:10 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Technically I am Catholic.
And I am pro-life, just not anti-abortion.

Try harder.

Why I already won? The first button I posted more than did the trick showing how silly the comparison was. From there were just dicking around. But if wanna keep playing this silly game of vapid name-calling here 

I'm always impressed when you manage full sentences, grammar, punctuation, and correct spelling.