Winter - If you were really serious about worshipping your gawd then I doubt that a touch of eyeliner would get in the way. Do we really need to know or care if men wear underwear to the mosque? Maybe what's needed is some of that Mormon magic underwear.

You are a sad little man. Twitter boots you and back here you crawl.

@WinterHold Have you considered that it might be for covid protection?

Women Muslim cops, in pants?? And, yet, no suicide bombers? (Knock on wood...)

(April 25, 2021 at 6:07 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I've always wondered how it goes over many Muslim women's heads that they choose to wear makeup, which is for sexualizing yourself, and then they cover their hair. It's just funny to me is all.

You should see some of the people at my parent's church, Winter. There's this girl in her 20s that dresses like a complete whore and she works with the children. She wears shorts so short you can see her butt cheeks. Even I think it's disrespectful to dress that way in a place of worship. She would definitely be distracting from my worship if I believed in God. And then the lady who plays the keyboard takes off her shoes when she's playing. Doesn't she know how common having a foot fetish is? Feet are the best.

The Hijab's main goal is to remove artificial sexualization of women in a society, both men & women have a sentence in the Quran that is the main source of the Hijab:

Quote:Sura 24, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 30 )   Tell the believing men to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what they do.

( 31 )   And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.

That's my problem with the female Saudi guards in the Grand Mosque. Niqab along with an eyeliner is seductive and far from "professionalism and modesty".

I speak with full honesty, men and women are human beings with sexual desires, if I saw a woman with a Niqab and an eyeliner my head will jump to what's beneath the Niqab, if I saw a woman taking off her shoes I would fantasize about her feet.

Denying this is denying human biology. A house of God must respect and know that the visitors are humans, with a human biology.

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(April 25, 2021 at 7:36 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Winter - If you were really serious about worshipping your gawd then I doubt that a touch of eyeliner would get in the way.  Do we really need to know or care if men wear underwear to the mosque?  Maybe what's needed is some of that Mormon magic underwear.

You are a sad little man. Twitter boots you and back here you crawl.

Nuns; arewethereyet. Christian nuns. Are they allowed by the Church to put make-up and eyeliners?

https://www.answers.com/Q/Can_nuns_wear_makeup

Quote:Nuns can wear makeup but they are gently urged against it on a regular basis. I'm sure they wear makeup when special occasions come up. They really have no use for makeup otherwise. They are not in any way trying to attract any attention to themselves because they were sworn to chastity.

+ there are no "females" guarding the Vatican, quite sexist but not allowed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard

Quote:In 2009, the Pontifical Swiss Guard commandant, Daniel Anrig, suggested that the Guard might someday be open to recruiting women, but he added that the admission of female recruits remained far in the future.[19]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard#cite_note-19][/url]
Christians don't even recruit women as guards in their Vatican !

It is interesting that Muslim men are so aroused at the sight of eyeliner, or maybe a bare ankle on a woman.

It is also interesting that most religions consider sexual desire as impure and shameful.

Sexual repression leads to other forms of oppression.

(April 25, 2021 at 9:50 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(April 25, 2021 at 6:07 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I've always wondered how it goes over many Muslim women's heads that they choose to wear makeup, which is for sexualizing yourself, and then they cover their hair. It's just funny to me is all.

You should see some of the people at my parent's church, Winter. There's this girl in her 20s that dresses like a complete whore and she works with the children. She wears shorts so short you can see her butt cheeks. Even I think it's disrespectful to dress that way in a place of worship. She would definitely be distracting from my worship if I believed in God. And then the lady who plays the keyboard takes off her shoes when she's playing. Doesn't she know how common having a foot fetish is? Feet are the best.

The Hijab's main goal is to remove artificial sexualization of women in a society, both men & women have a sentence in the Quran that is the main source of the Hijab:

Quote:Sura 24, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 30 )   Tell the believing men to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what they do.

( 31 )   And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.

That's my problem with the female Saudi guards in the Grand Mosque. Niqab along with an eyeliner is seductive and far from "professionalism and modesty".

I speak with full honesty, men and women are human beings with sexual desires, if I saw a woman with a Niqab and an eyeliner my head will jump to what's beneath the Niqab, if I saw a woman taking off her shoes I would fantasize about her feet.

Denying this is denying human biology. A house of God must respect and know that the visitors are humans, with a human biology.

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(April 25, 2021 at 7:36 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Winter - If you were really serious about worshipping your gawd then I doubt that a touch of eyeliner would get in the way.  Do we really need to know or care if men wear underwear to the mosque?  Maybe what's needed is some of that Mormon magic underwear.

You are a sad little man. Twitter boots you and back here you crawl.

Nuns; arewethereyet. Christian nuns. Are they allowed by the Church to put make-up and eyeliners?

https://www.answers.com/Q/Can_nuns_wear_makeup

Quote:Nuns can wear makeup but they are gently urged against it on a regular basis. I'm sure they wear makeup when special occasions come up. They really have no use for makeup otherwise. They are not in any way trying to attract any attention to themselves because they were sworn to chastity.

+ there are no "females" guarding the Vatican, quite sexist but not allowed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard

Quote:In 2009, the Pontifical Swiss Guard commandant, Daniel Anrig, suggested that the Guard might someday be open to recruiting women, but he added that the admission of female recruits remained far in the future.[19]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard#cite_note-19][/url]
Christians don't even recruit women as guards in their Vatican !

Blahbity, blah, blah, blah...where was eyeliner forbidden in your book?

As for nuns, I was attending Catholic schools when the rules were relaxed on what they could wear.  The older nuns still wore their habits but the younger ones often wore simple dresses.  Sister Pat was a new nun and was known for her pale blue, short-sleeved, knee-length dresses made of some horrible polyester material.  Sister Annette, the PE teacher, was always in athletic attire...I don't think I ever saw her in anything remotely resembling a habit.  I didn't see much makeup wearing but the rules were just starting to ease up in the early and mid 70s.

The men and boys I grew up around weren't afraid to see knees and arms and faces because they were scared they wouldn't be able to control themselves.  

The Vatican is Catholic not Christian. Nuns are Catholic.

Will the female cops be allowed to arrest male criminals?  From the title, that's the question I expected within the thread.

But it's about makeup?  Are the male cops allowed to wear eyeliner?  I watch The Last Kingdom on Netflix.  Uhtred of Bebbanburg, Alexander Dreymon, looks great in eyeliner.

Taboo breeds perversion, Winter.

It's actually your silly religions fault that eyeliner does things to you that it doesn't do to other people, not eyeliners fault that your religion is silly.

(April 28, 2021 at 1:47 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(April 25, 2021 at 9:50 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The Hijab's main goal is to remove artificial sexualization of women in a society, both men & women have a sentence in the Quran that is the main source of the Hijab:



That's my problem with the female Saudi guards in the Grand Mosque. Niqab along with an eyeliner is seductive and far from "professionalism and modesty".

I speak with full honesty, men and women are human beings with sexual desires, if I saw a woman with a Niqab and an eyeliner my head will jump to what's beneath the Niqab, if I saw a woman taking off her shoes I would fantasize about her feet.

Denying this is denying human biology. A house of God must respect and know that the visitors are humans, with a human biology.

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Nuns; arewethereyet. Christian nuns. Are they allowed by the Church to put make-up and eyeliners?

https://www.answers.com/Q/Can_nuns_wear_makeup


+ there are no "females" guarding the Vatican, quite sexist but not allowed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard#cite_note-19][/url]
Christians don't even recruit women as guards in their Vatican !

Blahbity, blah, blah, blah...where was eyeliner forbidden in your book?

Makeup is considered "adornment". and women were prohibited from exposing adornment except that which necessarily appears to men who aren't family or husbands:

Quote:Sura 24, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh
( 31 )   And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.

so, eyeliner, lipstick, heavy makeup, stuff like that.

She can put an eyeliner elsewhere if she wants, but in the house of God people should obey God's commands to the word.

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(April 28, 2021 at 2:06 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Will the female cops be allowed to arrest male criminals?  From the title, that's the question I expected within the thread.

But it's about makeup?  Are the male cops allowed to wear eyeliner?  I watch The Last Kingdom on Netflix.  Uhtred of Bebbanburg, Alexander Dreymon, looks great in eyeliner.

Interesting question.
kudos

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(April 28, 2021 at 2:59 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Taboo breeds perversion, Winter.

It's actually your silly religions fault that eyeliner does things to you that it doesn't do to other people, not eyeliners fault that your religion is silly.

Maybe you're the pervert and you just don't know it.

On account of how eyeliner doesn't give me a worship interrupting stiffy? Sometimes, I don't think that you can fully understand how backward and damaged the religious sound.