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I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:14 pm
I joined this forum to ask some questions of people who use “atheist” as a descriptor (or part of a descriptor)…so, if I may, here goes.
First, a predicate:
My personal take on the question, “Are there any gods?” (which seems to be a subset of, “What is the true nature of the REALITY of existence?”) is:
I do not know if any "gods"** exist or not;
I see no reason to suspect gods CANNOT EXIST...that the existence of gods is impossible;
I see no reason to suspect that gods MUST EXIST...that gods are needed to explain existence;
I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction...
...so I don't.
**When I use the word "god" I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'...IF THERE IS SUCH AN ENTITY."
A few preliminary questions:
Is there anyone here who asserts, “No gods exist?”
Is there anyone here who asserts that he/she KNOWS that no gods exist?
Is there anyone here who asserts that it is impossible for gods to exist?
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:24 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 12:14 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: I joined this forum to ask some questions of people who use “atheist” as a descriptor (or part of a descriptor)…so, if I may, here goes.
First, a predicate:
My personal take on the question, “Are there any gods?” (which seems to be a subset of, “What is the true nature of the REALITY of existence?”) is:
I do not know if any "gods"** exist or not;
I see no reason to suspect gods CANNOT EXIST...that the existence of gods is impossible;
I see no reason to suspect that gods MUST EXIST...that gods are needed to explain existence;
I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction...
...so I don't.
**When I use the word "god" I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'...IF THERE IS SUCH AN ENTITY."
A few preliminary questions:
Is there anyone here who asserts, “No gods exist?”
Is there anyone here who asserts that he/she KNOWS that no gods exist?
Is there anyone here who asserts that it is impossible for gods to exist?
The real question for me would be, why would a God be a requirement at all?
I do assert Occam's razor, in that it is far more infinitely likely that humans make god/s up as a reflection of their own desires.
It is absolutely true that humans can't know the future. But at the same time, we can discard bad claims.
I am a flat out atheist as far as past and current claims of God/gods/deities made so far. I am an agnostic atheist "technically" as far as the future, but even then, I find it highly unlikely that there will be a super cognition found as an answer. Even then, the idea seems superfluous.
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:27 pm
I assert that no gods exist.
I know, in the sense that I am certain, that no gods exist (I may be wrong, but I’m not uncertain).
I do not assert that it is impossible for gods to exist.
Ta for asking.
Boru
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:32 pm
gods exist. In the land of fairy tales and daydreams.
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:34 pm
Is there anyone here who asserts, “No gods exist?”
Yes, me.
Is there anyone here who asserts that he/she KNOWS that no gods exist?
Yes, me.
Is there anyone here who asserts that it is impossible for gods to exist?
Yes, me.
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:36 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 12:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I assert that no gods exist.
I know, in the sense that I am certain, that no gods exist (I may be wrong, but I’m not uncertain).
I do not assert that it is impossible for gods to exist.
Ta for asking.
Boru
I think most theists and those who misuse the word "agnostic" which was not a real word, but one Thomas Huxley horribly cobbled together to mean "split the baby".
I think there is no inconsistency in saying "I am an atheist" and at the same time admitting one can be wrong.
I'd say just on Occam's razor and law of probability, the necessity of a super cognition being a prime mover, or first cause is fleetingly unnecessary/superfluous. The idea that an all powerful super cognition is also an Orwellian idea.
If one wants to claim God is a possible reality sure, they can claim that. But I look at that being a reality at the same odds of this.
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:36 pm
I don't think "gods in general" is well enough defined to say much about. Your definition is just one of many.
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:38 pm
I've not been provided with concrete evidence for a god. Until that day, no god(s).
I'm convinced that my dogs consider me a god. I get concrete evidence for that daily.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:39 pm
Gods, gods, gods.....
Fuck that patriarchal, penis worshiping bullshit.
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Bring on the big titted GODDESSES and we'll consider it...
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RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 22, 2021 at 12:47 pm
(June 22, 2021 at 12:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 22, 2021 at 12:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I assert that no gods exist.
I know, in the sense that I am certain, that no gods exist (I may be wrong, but I’m not uncertain).
I do not assert that it is impossible for gods to exist.
Ta for asking.
Boru
I think most theists and those who misuse the word "agnostic" which was not a real word, but one Thomas Huxley horribly cobbled together to mean "split the baby".
I think there is no inconsistency in saying "I am an atheist" and at the same time admitting one can be wrong.
I'd say just on Occam's razor and law of probability, the necessity of a super cognition being a prime mover, or first cause is fleetingly unnecessary/superfluous. The idea that an all powerful super cognition is also an Orwellian idea.
If one wants to claim God is a possible reality sure, they can claim that. But I look at that being a reality at the same odds of this.
There’s so much nonsense in that post, I hardly know where to begin. So I won’t try.
Boru
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