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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:23 pm
(June 30, 2021 at 8:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Boinking the neighbors wife may be wrong, but that’s natural by your definition as well, kloro. Yup screwing your neighbor's wife produces kids so it's natural. But would a gay person donating his sperm count?
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:24 pm
(June 30, 2021 at 8:12 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: (June 30, 2021 at 7:56 pm)polymath257 Wrote: So, even under your definition, why would 'natural' be good?
You complain that homosexuality doesn't serve our instinct to procreate. To me, that is a positive about homosexuality! There are already too many people on Earth. We should be reducing the population through attrition as opposed to adding more to it.
So, in this sense, homosexuality may well serve our instinct for survival.
There are better ways to reduce population (or decrease the birth rate) like birth control. No need to encourage these sexual orientations.
A word of warning though: All ideologies that endorse ethnic cleansing like nazism and such can use your same rationalization.
(June 30, 2021 at 7:56 pm)polymath257 Wrote: In any case, I find the whole argument to be silly. Most people don't choose who they love. They fall in love and decide what to do from there. And there is nothing inherently wrong with men loving men nor of women loving women. And, to go further, there is nothing wrong with people expressing their love for someone via sexuality.
Unfortunately, I am not bisexual, so I am not inclined to share sexuality with anyone who is not female. But that doesn't mean I am against others finding happiness in sex with whoever is willing.
What's silly is to base your argument on what people fall in love with.. you can also fall in love with your neighbor's wife, for instance, are you sure there is nothing wrong with expressing your love to you neighbor's female ? (Y/N)
(June 30, 2021 at 7:58 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yikes, the reassertion are getting worse. I -don’t- allocate female resources, do you?
To me , that sounds like how you end up under some girl holding your own pistol to your head, mascara everywhere, screaming “ you know why!” At o dark thirty.
How many females, if you had to guess, would allocate themselves to you if they were aware of this belief? Who ... in short.... do you think you’re going to get into bed with you on this line?
Can you imagine how a man might gain from murdering a person who believes as much at the behest of the allocated female?
Of course "allocate female resources" doesn't seem to be the best way to seduce a female -but who knows.?
How exactly does one "encourage" certain sexual orientations?
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:26 pm
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Beatings and beheadings, naturally. Same way you allocate females.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:30 pm
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(June 30, 2021 at 8:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Boinking the neighbors wife may be wrong, but that’s natural by your definition as well, kloro.
Well, we already agreed that natural doesn't mean right. I was just responding to polymath's flawed criterion : as long as we fall in love with X, it's fine to copulate with X.
And since, dear @ polymath257 males can theoretically fall in love with any female of any age, pedophiles also seem to have a free ticket according to your criterion.
(June 30, 2021 at 8:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How exactly does one "encourage" certain sexual orientations?
He's doing it. He's arguing in favor of homosexuality. More homosexuals means less heterosexuals, it's a zero sum game.
That's why it's not right to defend homosexuality : Evolutionarily, you are depriving society of males who would allocate themselves to females and serve procreation.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:33 pm
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Quote:Well, we already agreed that natural doesn't mean right. I was just responding to polymath's flawed criterion : as long as we fall in love with X, it's fine to copulate with X.
And since, dear @polymath257 males can theoretically fall in love with any female of any age, pedophiles also seem to have a free ticket according to your criterion.
Accept that wasn't the totality of his criteria now was it.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:35 pm
Hey kpop,
You know that old saying about remaining silent.
Give it a shot.
But all doubt is removed.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:36 pm
(June 30, 2021 at 8:35 pm)no one Wrote: Hey kpop,
You know that old saying about remaining silent.
Give it a shot.
But all doubt is removed.
You first.
I promise I'll give it a shot once you do.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:39 pm
Why on earth do you think homosexual males would “allocate” themselves to females?
Are you aware that gay men can and do have children?
Again, false assertions applied to invalid inference. I told you we’d keep having this issue until we fixed that?
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:40 pm
(June 30, 2021 at 8:30 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: (June 30, 2021 at 8:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Boinking the neighbors wife may be wrong, but that’s natural by your definition as well, kloro.
Well, we already agreed that natural doesn't mean right. I was just responding to polymath's flawed criterion : as long as we fall in love with X, it's fine to copulate with X.
And since, dear @polymath257 males can theoretically fall in love with any female of any age, pedophiles also seem to have a free ticket according to your criterion.
(June 30, 2021 at 8:24 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How exactly does one "encourage" certain sexual orientations?
He's doing it. He's arguing in favor of homosexuality. More homosexuals means less heterosexuals, it's a zero sum game.
That's why it's not right to defend homosexuality : Evolutionarily, you are depriving society of males who would allocate themselves to females and serve procreation.
You're really beginning to strike me as one who is afraid of his own sexual orientation.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:40 pm
Quote:He's doing it. He's arguing in favor of homosexuality. More homosexuals means less heterosexuals, it's a zero sum game.
No arguing that people who are homosexuals should be allowed to have relationships is neither trying to produce more homosexuals or reduce the number of heterosexuals
Quote:That's why it's not right to defend homosexuality : Evolutionarily, you are depriving society of males who would allocate themselves to females and serve procreation.
Nope saying a certain minority of people should be allowed to be homosexual in no threatens society or any real impact on population numbers
This line of reasoning is silly
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