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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:41 pm
Well, he did just tell us that the problem with homosexuals was how they were denying him males......so
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:42 pm
(June 30, 2021 at 8:39 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Why on earth do you think homosexual males would “allocate” themselves to females?
Are you aware that gay men can and do have children?
Again, false assertions applied to invalid inference. I told you we’d keep having this issue until we fixed that? Indeed this is a false dichotomy.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:43 pm
(June 30, 2021 at 8:39 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Why on earth do you think homosexual males would “allocate” themselves to females?
Are you aware that gay men can and do have children?
Again, false assertions applied to invalid inference. I told you we’d keep having this issue until we fixed that?
I maybe didn't frame that right, males should allocate themselves to females, or not allocate themselves at all.
Just like murder disserves survival, homosexuality disserves procreation, and thus should be considered invalid.
Gay men can of course adopt children. But this runs into other problems, like whether a gay family is the ideal environment for a child, rather than a heterosexual family...
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:43 pm
(June 30, 2021 at 8:12 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: (June 30, 2021 at 7:56 pm)polymath257 Wrote: So, even under your definition, why would 'natural' be good?
You complain that homosexuality doesn't serve our instinct to procreate. To me, that is a positive about homosexuality! There are already too many people on Earth. We should be reducing the population through attrition as opposed to adding more to it.
So, in this sense, homosexuality may well serve our instinct for survival.
There are better ways to reduce population (or decrease the birth rate) like birth control. No need to encourage these sexual orientations.
A word of warning though: All ideologies that endorse ethnic cleansing like nazism and such can use your same rationalization.
(June 30, 2021 at 7:56 pm)polymath257 Wrote: In any case, I find the whole argument to be silly. Most people don't choose who they love. They fall in love and decide what to do from there. And there is nothing inherently wrong with men loving men nor of women loving women. And, to go further, there is nothing wrong with people expressing their love for someone via sexuality.
Unfortunately, I am not bisexual, so I am not inclined to share sexuality with anyone who is not female. But that doesn't mean I am against others finding happiness in sex with whoever is willing.
What's silly is to base your argument on what people fall in love with.. you can also fall in love with your neighbor's wife, for instance, are you sure there is nothing wrong with expressing your love to you neighbor's female ? (Y/N)
(June 30, 2021 at 7:58 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yikes, the reassertion are getting worse. I -don’t- allocate female resources, do you?
To me , that sounds like how you end up under some girl holding your own pistol to your head, mascara everywhere, screaming “ you know why!” At o dark thirty.
How many females, if you had to guess, would allocate themselves to you if they were aware of this belief? Who ... in short.... do you think you’re going to get into bed with you on this line?
Can you imagine how a man might gain from murdering a person who believes as much at the behest of the allocated female?
Of course "allocate female resources" doesn't seem to be the best way to seduce a female -but who knows.?
Bold mine - yeah, that's not gonna work. It's certainly not seduction and may get you clobbered up-side the head.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:44 pm
It’s striking that his first sentence up there provides refutation of his own allocation argument. This is how I know he’s not a complete basket case.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:49 pm
Quote:I maybe didn't frame that right, males should allocate themselves to females, or not allocate themselves at all.
No, your framing is still wrong
Quote:Just like murder disserves survival, homosexuality disserves procreation, and thus should be considered invalid.
Murder is wrong because it's actively killing someone. Homosexuality is fine because no one is obligated to reproduce.
Quote:Gay men can of course adopt children. But this runs into other problems, like whether a gay family is the ideal environment for a child, rather than a heterosexual family...
Homosexual families have been demonstrated to be just as good as heterosexual families. Also, gay people can donate sperm and eggs.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:52 pm
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What we might be seeing is a person unfamiliar with arguing a point outside of yammering about djinn trying a harm based argument.
Idk if that’s going to be a good fit with allocation -or- the insistence that anyone shouldn’t “allocate” themselves at all.
That one certainly not fitting the definition of natural we were provided with either.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:54 pm
(June 30, 2021 at 8:40 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: You're really beginning to strike me as one who is afraid of his own sexual orientation.
To be completely honest, I might be able to relate to why females may get attracted to each other. But why a male would prefer a male rectum to female physiology is completely beyond me.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:54 pm
Kpop, before you can be taken seriously, you need to lose your retarded imaginary friend.
I was 9 when I realized god was complete horseshit, and only for those with inferior weak minds.
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RE: forbidding people to love each other
June 30, 2021 at 8:55 pm
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You’re in luck, you don’t have to understand it, but you not understanding a thing won’t make it wrong or unnatural.
Just means you’re dense. I mean that in the nicest way, we can all be dense, that -is- natural and probably not wrong, either.
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