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RE: Noteworthy News
September 4, 2021 at 8:40 am
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(September 4, 2021 at 8:32 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 4, 2021 at 8:27 am)Helios Wrote: The fact they knowingly sold you a weapon.
So, you would outlaw the sale of ANYTHING sold as a weapon?
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Laws like that are already on the books. That's what remington is being sued over, and it's gone all the way to the supremes already.
Swords are sold as novelties or collectors items. Archery is a sport. When gun manufacturers went all in on that "kill the bad guy coming for you in your home" shit....they put themselves in legally perilous territory. They knew it then, too..but the money was just too good.
I'm reminded of a gentleman at the wagon wheel flea market back in the 90's, sold swords, knives, canes with knives in em...his stall was hilariously and usefully called Not Weapons.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 4, 2021 at 8:43 am
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(September 4, 2021 at 8:32 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 4, 2021 at 8:27 am)Helios Wrote: The fact they knowingly sold you a weapon.
So, you would outlaw the sale of ANYTHING sold as a weapon?
Boru Nope but they should be liable for deaths caused by them
(September 4, 2021 at 8:40 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (September 4, 2021 at 8:32 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, you would outlaw the sale of ANYTHING sold as a weapon?
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Laws like that are already on the books. That's what remington is being sued over, and it's gone all the way to the supremes already.
Swords are sold as novelties or collectors items. Archery is a sport. When gun manufacturers went all in on that "kill the bad guy coming for you in your home" shit....they put themselves is legally perilous territory. They knew it then, too..but the money was just too good. This is true as well
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 4, 2021 at 8:48 am
It really was that easy to avoid the shitty end of this - all they had to do was keep calling it a sporting rifle..that's why they called it a sporting rifle in the first place.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 4, 2021 at 8:53 am
(September 4, 2021 at 8:48 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It really was that easy to avoid the shitty end of this - all they had to do was keep calling it a sporting rifle..that's why they called it a sporting rifle in the first place. Also true
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 4, 2021 at 8:54 am
(September 4, 2021 at 7:09 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 4, 2021 at 6:47 am)Helios Wrote: I think weapons manufacturers should be held liable for a mass killing. I don't think that's insane. Especially if the people suing are the victims of the weapon they made.
I don’t think that’s legally possible or ethically supportable. You can’t select one class of legal product out of thousands and hold the manufacturer responsible for that product’s criminal misuse.
Suppose I make a bomb out of chemical fertilizer and blow up a building, killing dozens of people and injuring hundreds more. Is DowAgro responsible for those deaths and injuries?
Why should guns be treated differently than other products?
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Admittedly due to our litigious society, but companies are held accountable if someone is hurt from a foreseeably dangerous use of their product that they failed to warn the customer about. That's why all these warning stickers on products. It's not far removed from that.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 4, 2021 at 8:58 am
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I don't mean to strip the story of it's tragic element, but at the end of the day, the story of remington is the story of a company driven into the dirt by ludicrous management and ownership decisions. They went broke selling guns in the us. The stockholders were defrauded in the process.
(September 4, 2021 at 8:54 am)Angrboda Wrote: Admittedly due to our litigious society, but companies are held accountable if someone is hurt from a foreseeably dangerous use of their product that they failed to warn the customer about. That's why all these warning stickers on products. It's not far removed from that.
Pretty much. You can't run an ad campaign based on your products urban lethality and then claim that you weren't marketing a product designed for mass shootings. Or that this was some unfortunate, but unforeseeable use...of the product you designed and marketed for exactly that purpose.
(by the by, the parents did try a failure to warn case, but rem shot that down by showing that they very much did tell people how many people that product could kill..and quick. Remington was being run by a clown car that had swallowed a pirate ship full of bilge rat pricks - neverending self owns)
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 4, 2021 at 4:09 pm
On reflection (and being educated about it), I’m happy to change my position about the merits of this lawsuit.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 4, 2021 at 4:31 pm
I mentioned in another thread that the Taliban aided the evacuation as a way to show that they could competently run the country. Now, they’re asking for help in finding several thousand IEDs they laid.
Not a good look, boys.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 5, 2021 at 3:48 am
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(September 2, 2021 at 12:14 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh no
Quote:Swedish superstars ABBA set to unveil 'sensational' musical comeback
They famously vowed never to reform, to the disappointment of their legions of fans. But nearly four decades after disbanding, Swedish superstars ABBA were on Thursday expected to announce a "sensational comeback" collaboration.
https://news.yahoo.com/swedish-superstar...49733.html
As pointed out in the current Private Eye (lampooning a tabloid "exclusive") the band made the exact same announcement in 2019, but had to shelve their comeback plans over Covid.
(September 2, 2021 at 6:20 pm)brewer Wrote: JFC, they're not going to get it without steep fines and significant jail time!
Jan. 6 riot defendant returned to jail for using internet
Quote:OWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday ordered a prominent participant in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol to return to jail after he was caught accessing the internet to watch false conspiracy theories about the presidential election.
U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly said that Doug Jensen, 42, of Des Moines, Iowa, had violated the strict conditions that were set when he released Jensen from jail on July 13, including prohibitions on accessing the internet and using a cellphone.
Kelly ordered marshals at the federal courthouse in Des Moines, where Jensen attended Thursday's hearing, to immediately take him into custody as he awaits trial.
Prosecutors had moved to revoke Jensen’s pretrial release on Aug. 19, days after a federal officer found Jensen in his garage using an iPhone to watch news from Rumble, a streaming platform popular with conservatives.
Jensen acknowledged that he had earlier watched two days of the cyber symposium sponsored by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, an ally of former President Donald Trump who used the event to push false theories that the presidential election's outcome was changed by Chinese hackers.
Kelly noted that he had released Jensen from jail on July 13 after Jensen claimed he had an awakening behind bars and realized the QAnon conspiracy theory to which he adhered was a “pack of lies.” The judge said he put in place the strict conditions, including the internet ban, because Jensen had previously spent years following online conspiracies and acknowledged he had become a “true believer” and “digital soldier.”
https://herald-review.com/news/national/...27559.html
Fuckheads should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for their coup, ie life without parle or firing squads. The softly softly approach didn't work with Hitler, why does anybody think it'll work with these neo-nazi fucks?
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 5, 2021 at 7:06 am
(September 5, 2021 at 3:48 am)Nomad Wrote: (September 2, 2021 at 12:14 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Oh no
As pointed out in the current Private Eye (lampooning a tabloid "exclusive") the band made the exact same announcement in 2019, but had to shelve their comeback plans over Covid.
(September 2, 2021 at 6:20 pm)brewer Wrote: JFC, they're not going to get it without steep fines and significant jail time!
Jan. 6 riot defendant returned to jail for using internet
https://herald-review.com/news/national/...27559.html
Fuckheads should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for their coup, ie life without parle or firing squads. The softly softly approach didn't work with Hitler, why does anybody think it'll work with these neo-nazi fucks?
When you have the same venom for all the leftie rioters who were responsible for 10 times the killing and wonton destruction the previous summer - we can consider your post as something other than a hate filled partisan diatribe.
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