(September 29, 2021 at 6:14 pm)MadJW Wrote: I find it quite strange that when you understand something, there is ALWAYS one that tells you DON'T....and that they fail to tell you why...

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(September 29, 2021 at 4:34 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Have you taken your medication today?

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(September 29, 2021 at 6:10 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: First of all, the biodiversity on earth is not a product of blind chance. Evolution by the way of natural SELECTION. Notice the word "selection"? 

Of COURSE I did. Now YOU notice the word.
What does it take to "select"?

Environmental, reproductive, survival pressures do the selecting.

Those organisms that are able to out survive and out breed others in their group, pass down their genes to their offspring. And because that genetic material was from the survivors and more successful breeders, their offspring are more likely to have the genes that also allow them to out survive and out breed members of their group that does not have that gene expression as strongly.

Humans have used the exact same process to take typical wolves, to every single breed of dog on the planet in about 10,000 years. But instead of nature doing the selecting for survival and reproductive traits, humans selected for how they wanted dogs to be, and did the reproductive selection. Keep picking the largest dogs of each litter, and only let those dogs breed, and within just a few generations, you've just created a breed of large dogs.

The same process, with nature doing the selecting, produced bears with white fur that is hollow, an extra layer of fat, to blend in to the snow, and trap heat.

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You know what is always strange about having a conversation with creationists about evolution? Is that you are on an atheist website, talking about the foundations of biological science, with a bunch of non scientists.

You know what you have to do, right? Join biology websites, and dazzle them with your ability to overturn all of biological science, and convince them. After all, they are the ones who have dedicated their lives to the study of biology, their the ones that actually study in the lab and in the field.

And here's the thing, let's say, that biological science was overturned and evolution was disproven tomorrow. That still would not provide a bit of evidence for the existence of a god or gods. You do know that, right?

But of course, evolution has been observed, in the labs and in the fields, so, disproving it is not going to happen.

(September 29, 2021 at 12:56 pm)MadJW Wrote: I LOVE science; I just hate how they whisk away a Creator from their findings.
As if they are gonna chooses of the the world's many Gods!

Scientists can only posit claims that are, in principle, testable.

(September 29, 2021 at 7:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Those organisms ...

If you keep up your evolutionary spheel, refusing to answer the simple questions, I will ignore you as you do me.

NONE of those - heh!- 'organisms' can SELECT.

I'm not sure why anyone is wasting time on you. You're obviously not worth it.

Don't you have some doors to knock on?

You know, the "mad" in your title isn't required.

Most of my family are johos and they prove their lack of sanity daily.

(September 29, 2021 at 8:38 pm)brewer Wrote: I'm not sure why anyone is wasting time on you. You're obviously not worth it.

Don't you have some doors to knock on?

Condescending with a hint of arrogance.
Who said that ANYONE was worth it?

I'd gauge the depth of this conversation at about a half a centimeter.

OP: If you have an interesting argument for design or creationism, let's hear it. Otherwise I'm just going to assume you've come here to antagonize people.

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(September 29, 2021 at 8:38 pm)brewer Wrote: Don't you have some doors to knock on?

Brewer, JWs don't celebrate Halloween. Didn't you know? They find it immoral.

I mean, sure, the JWs have protected child molestors and played a crucial role in allowing child abuse to continue (for years in some cases).

But you won't find any of them dressing up like Batman and asking for candy. (They're not monsters.)

(September 29, 2021 at 8:45 pm)MadJW Wrote:

(September 29, 2021 at 8:38 pm)brewer Wrote: I'm not sure why anyone is wasting time on you. You're obviously not worth it.

Don't you have some doors to knock on?

Condescending with a hint of arrogance.
Who said that ANYONE was worth it?

As far as run-of-the-mill internet trolling goes, this is shockingly low effort.

(September 29, 2021 at 9:22 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(September 29, 2021 at 8:45 pm)MadJW Wrote: Condescending with a hint of arrogance.
Who said that ANYONE was worth it?

As far as run-of-the-mill internet trolling goes, this is shockingly low effort.

"Troll'n, troll'n, troll'n, keep those Wagons troll'n, Raw Hide!"

(September 29, 2021 at 8:35 pm)MadJW Wrote:

(September 29, 2021 at 7:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Those organisms ...

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If you keep up your evolutionary spheel, refusing to answer the simple questions, I will ignore you as you do me.

NONE of those - heh!- 'organisms' can SELECT.

You have reading comprehension problem too, along with your ignorance and fallacious arguments.

Of course the organisms don't select. Environment pressires do the selecting.

You know what you have to, right? You need to join a biology forum, and dazzle them with your ability to overturn all of biological science.

Also, you do know, that even if evolution was proven wrong tomorrow (not sure how that would happen since evolution has been observed), that would not offer a bit of evidence for the existence a god, right?