(October 1, 2021 at 12:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(October 1, 2021 at 11:55 am)Angrboda Wrote: Biker is the type of asshole who would call a guy with long hair a girl by mistake and then not apologize because he doesn't agree with guys wearing long hair.

Absolutely zero insight into other people and no tolerance for anybody's opinion but his own.

If long hair is the criterion, then I might be the ugliest girl in New Zealand.

Boru

Didn't you recently say you hadn't cut your hair in twenty years?

I can't even imagine...I have had two trims of maybe an inch or so since before the pandemic and my hair is getting too long for me to want to deal with it.

Most people who get pregnant are women. I haven’t really met any trans men who say they would ever want to get pregnant. They’re a minority within a minority so I don’t really expect them to come up in day to day conversation.

But if they do, it’s not like I’m going to make a big deal out of it either.

Just don’t be a jerk and cut people enough slack that you can assume they aren’t trying to be jerks and we can get along.

(October 1, 2021 at 12:23 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(October 1, 2021 at 12:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If long hair is the criterion, then I might be the ugliest girl in New Zealand.

Boru

Didn't you recently say you hadn't cut your hair in twenty years?  

I can't even imagine...I have had two trims of maybe an inch or so since before the pandemic and my hair is getting too long for me to want to deal with it.

I hack off the ends from time to time, that’s about it. I generally wear it in a braid and it reaches my lower back.

Boru

(October 1, 2021 at 11:55 am)Angrboda Wrote: Biker is the type of asshole who would call a guy with long hair a girl by mistake and then not apologize because he doesn't agree with guys wearing long hair.

Absolutely zero insight into other people and no tolerance for anybody's opinion but his own.

Quote:bigot, n.

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

~ Merriam-Webster

Go fuck yourself you angry old bitch. ( that IS the pronoun you assigned yourself - and as I recall you tried to stick on me.)

I have been called " miss" exactly BECAUSE I had hair down to my waist - and was not offended. I found the old gal's flustered look when I stood up and turned around - rather amusing.

Your citation is hardly indicative of anything. 99.999%  of the time when you see a pregnant " person" it' s GOING to be a " she".


Perhaps it' s different in your planet.

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(October 1, 2021 at 12:21 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(October 1, 2021 at 11:28 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I personally don't care about someone' s " identity" even when it falls clearly into conflict with basic biology.

Well, if you don't care, then you might consider having a more understanding attitude. Think about it this way: isn't it weird that we resolve to treat people in a certain way and assign them social roles based on if they have a "long and dangly" swinging between their legs? But that's gender norms for you. Certain people don't want to conform to these norms. That's all.

I'm not applying social pressure or anything. (I think "social pressure" might be your real gripe anyway.) What I do is try to treat trans people with dignity and respect... including respecting their pronouns. I don't feel the need to buy into whatever pronoun package is being sold, nor am I offended by it. I just try to be decent toward everybody. I think a similar attitude might suit you, Biker.

You completely missed the point in the OP.

(October 1, 2021 at 1:01 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(October 1, 2021 at 11:55 am)Angrboda Wrote: Biker is the type of asshole who would call a guy with long hair a girl by mistake and then not apologize because he doesn't agree with guys wearing long hair.

Absolutely zero insight into other people and no tolerance for anybody's opinion but his own.

Go fuck yourself you angry old bitch. ( that IS the pronoun you assigned yourself - and as I recall you tried to stick on me.)

I have been called " miss" exactly BECAUSE I had hair down to my waist - and was not offended. I found the old gal's flustered look when I stood up and turned around - rather amusing.

Your citation is hardly indicative of anything. 99.999%  of the time when you see a pregnant " person" it' s GOING to be a " she".


Perhaps it' s different in your planet.

ps. 'Bitch' is not a pronoun you stupid bitch.

(October 1, 2021 at 1:05 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(October 1, 2021 at 1:01 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Go fuck yourself you angry old bitch. ( that IS the pronoun you assigned yourself - and as I recall you tried to stick on me.)

I have been called " miss" exactly BECAUSE I had hair down to my waist - and was not offended. I found the old gal's flustered look when I stood up and turned around - rather amusing.

Your citation is hardly indicative of anything. 99.999%  of the time when you see a pregnant " person" it' s GOING to be a " she".


Perhaps it' s different in your planet.

ps. 'Bitch' is not a pronoun you stupid bitch.

Irrelivant bitch.

You got the word I meant.

My point however flies right by you...


Expected.

Quote:Go fuck yourself you angry old bitch. ( that IS the pronoun you assigned yourself - and as I recall you tried to stick on me.)

I have been called " miss" exactly BECAUSE I had hair down to my waist - and was not offended. I found the old gal's flustered look when I stood up and turned around - rather amusing.

Your citation is hardly indicative of anything. 99.999%  of the time when you see a pregnant " person" it' s GOING to be a " she".


Perhaps it' s different in your planet.

And this whole comment is weapons grade stupid. It's amazing you make threads where you make yourself look like an ignorant clown and then whine out when people point out how full of shit you are. God, you almost achieved Dirch levels of stupid.

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Quote:Irrelevant bitch.

You got the word I meant.

My point however flies right by you...


Expected.

You don't have a point other than mindless Reactionarism

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Quote:You completely missed the point in the OP.

Nah Vul didn't miss the point. He can't miss what doesn't exist.

I usually call people what they want to be called. I'm weird that way.

(October 1, 2021 at 1:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(October 1, 2021 at 1:05 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

ps. 'Bitch' is not a pronoun you stupid bitch.

Irrelivant bitch.

You got the word I meant.

My point however flies right by you...


Expected.

(October 1, 2021 at 1:01 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(October 1, 2021 at 12:21 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Well, if you don't care, then you might consider having a more understanding attitude. Think about it this way: isn't it weird that we resolve to treat people in a certain way and assign them social roles based on if they have a "long and dangly" swinging between their legs? But that's gender norms for you. Certain people don't want to conform to these norms. That's all.

I'm not applying social pressure or anything. (I think "social pressure" might be your real gripe anyway.) What I do is try to treat trans people with dignity and respect... including respecting their pronouns. I don't feel the need to buy into whatever pronoun package is being sold, nor am I offended by it. I just try to be decent toward everybody. I think a similar attitude might suit you, Biker.

You completely missed the point in the OP.

I don't think I did. But maybe I missed the point...

My points were: don't worry too much about social pressure (shit you hear on the media counts here). Gender norms are kinda dumb. Just treat people with respect, and don't worry.

If I'm missing the point, could you be more specific? What exactly is bothering you?