That would require him to form thoughts all on his own lady, don't think that is possible.

(October 16, 2021 at 2:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Big Gay bribed the entire medical establishment, he already told you.  What more is there to say?

Nah, just the Psychiatric establishment...

Y'all act like I'm making the stuff up, when I literally pulled the information from an LBGT website.

https://www.advocate.com/politics/transg...-dysphoria

Quote:The newest edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM, will replace the diagnostic term “Gender Identity Disorder” with the term “Gender Dysphoria,” according to the Associated Press.

For years advocates have lobbied the American Psychiatric Association to change or remove categories labeling transgender people in a psychiatric manual, arguing that terms like “Gender Identity Disorder” characterize all trans people as mentally ill. Based on the standards to be set by the DSM-V, individuals will be diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria for displaying “a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender.”

What do you think "lobbying" entails? Asking nicely? It's referred to as legalized bribery for a reason.

I assume you’ve been combing through Google Scholar familiarizing yourself with the body of scientific literature on gender and biological sex, and you’ve come back to update us on what you’ve learned? Ya know. Since you’re super concerned about scientific and medical justification for things.

(October 16, 2021 at 9:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I assume you’ve been combing through Google Scholar familiarizing yourself with the body of scientific literature on gender and biological sex, and you’ve come back to update us on what you’ve learned? Ya know. Since you’re super concerned about scientific and medical justification for things.

And it isn't just a pretense to bash the LGBT community because his magic book says so 

(October 16, 2021 at 9:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I assume you’ve been combing through Google Scholar familiarizing yourself with the body of scientific literature on gender and biological sex, and you’ve come back to update us on what you’ve learned? Ya know. Since you’re super concerned about scientific and medical justification for things.

What's the point, didn't you guys label the information I posted from credible scientific sources as hate? I'm confused... how is truth hateful? I asked y'all, to point out the lie, but y'all don't want any of that, just the usual ad hominem attacks.

Like I've stated on many occasions on this forum, you atheists will only accept science when it agrees with your world view,

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(October 16, 2021 at 7:25 am)no one Wrote: This guy:
Huggy's mindset:
Discrimination is just plain wrong! Unless, there is something about you that I don't like. But still, don't discriminate against me.

Huggy Bear:
How is stating facts discrimination? What was the lie?

Take off those blinders of bigotry, buddy.

Your incessant hatred of the LBGTQ community seeps into every word you type.

Hatred is a learned behavior. Hating people for being different than you is disgusting and shameful.

I'm going to give you another chance, what did I say that you consider hateful?

If you don't have an answer then find somewhere to sit your ass down.

(October 16, 2021 at 2:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Big Gay bribed the entire medical establishment, he already told you. What more is there to say?

(October 16, 2021 at 3:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 16, 2021 at 2:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Big Gay bribed the entire medical establishment, he already told you.  What more is there to say?

But I want him to explain how they ended up on the list of recognized mental disorders in the first place.

From what I understand, it happened because professionals realised that just treating homosexuality as a deviant behaviour wasn't helping the people who did it. Of course, eventually the APA removed it as a diagnosis in 1973, largely because they realised it didn't necessarily have to be a problem and the vast majority of the trouble could be averted if straight people learned to tolerate them. And, bear in mind, at the time, between 4 and 7 of the 50 states had legalised it (I could find neither the date the APA made their decision nor the dates Delaware, Hawaii, and North Dakota repealed their sodomy laws). 1/10 of the nation's population (a bit less than that if none of the last three states changed their laws before the APA changed the DSM) lived in a jurisdiction where homosexuality was legal, so I doubt that the gay lobby was that powerful.

Remind me why any of us take huggy seriously on these issues ?

(October 16, 2021 at 9:33 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(October 16, 2021 at 9:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I assume you’ve been combing through Google Scholar familiarizing yourself with the body of scientific literature on gender and biological sex, and you’ve come back to update us on what you’ve learned? Ya know. Since you’re super concerned about scientific and medical justification for things.

What's the point, didn't you guys label the information I posted from credible scientific sources as hate? I'm confused... how is truth hateful? I asked y'all, to point out the lie, but y'all don't want any of that, just the usual ad hominem attacks.

Like I've stated on many occasions on this forum, you atheists will only accept science when it agrees with your world view,

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(October 16, 2021 at 7:25 am)no one Wrote: This guy:
Huggy's mindset:
Discrimination is just plain wrong! Unless, there is something about you that I don't like. But still, don't discriminate against me.

Huggy Bear:
How is stating facts discrimination? What was the lie?

Take off those blinders of bigotry, buddy.

Your incessant hatred of the LBGTQ community seeps into every word you type.

Hatred is a learned behavior. Hating people for being different than you is disgusting and shameful.

I'm going to give you another chance, what did I say that can be considered hateful?

Dude, nothing you posted had anything to do with what I’ve been asking you for like, five days now, including the follow-up question I posed to you earlier today. You’ve done zero work. You don’t care about science. Save us all the time and just admit that your deeply ingrained bias prevents you from bringing yourself to learn any new information that might lead to a second guessing of your beliefs on the subject. Just admit to yourself that you don’t want to learn that biological sex and gender are separate things, because then you’d have to accept that it’s okay for trans people to exist as they are. I know that must be a scary, horrifying possibility for you, poor thing.  I don’t know why I even bothered to try. Keep holding positions about trans people that are grounded in personal distaste and willful ignorance, Huggy. No one can stop you.

(October 16, 2021 at 9:42 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(October 16, 2021 at 2:37 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Big Gay bribed the entire medical establishment, he already told you.  What more is there to say?

(October 16, 2021 at 3:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: But I want him to explain how they ended up on the list of recognized mental disorders in the first place.

From what I understand, it happened because professionals realised that just treating homosexuality as a deviant behaviour wasn't helping the people who did it. Of course, eventually the APA removed it as a diagnosis in 1973, largely because they realised it didn't necessarily have to be a problem and the vast majority of the trouble could be averted if straight people learned to tolerate them. And, bear in mind, at the time, between 4 and 7 of the 50 states had legalised it (I could find neither the date the APA made their decision nor the dates Delaware, Hawaii, and North Dakota repealed their sodomy laws). 1/10 of the nation's population lived in a jurisdiction where homosexuality was legal, so I doubt that the gay lobby was that powerful.

Wrong time frame, the quote speaking of lobbying was in reference to the change of Gender identity being labeled as a disorder in 2012.

And the funny thing about that is I’m not sure the big tipping point that made trans activism the cultural force it is now would have happened for a couple years after 2012.