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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 7:44 am
(October 30, 2021 at 12:47 am)Rahn127 Wrote: Let's pretend for a moment that the universe as we know it doesn't exist and for the sake of argument, only a god exists.
The only thing in existence is a god. Nothing else.
For all of eternity only a god exists.
Does that make any sense ?
It's difficult for me to picture in my mind but that is precisely what many Christians believe, so yes, I can imagine this. But I can't stop wondering where this god came from.
Why is it so?
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 8:23 am
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(October 30, 2021 at 7:44 am)Spongebob Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 12:47 am)Rahn127 Wrote: Let's pretend for a moment that the universe as we know it doesn't exist and for the sake of argument, only a god exists.
The only thing in existence is a god. Nothing else.
For all of eternity only a god exists.
Does that make any sense ?
It's difficult for me to picture in my mind but that is precisely what many Christians believe, so yes, I can imagine this. But I can't stop wondering where this god came from. Who cares/why does that matter. There are more important elements to consider.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 9:16 am
(October 30, 2021 at 8:23 am)Ahriman Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 7:44 am)Spongebob Wrote: It's difficult for me to picture in my mind but that is precisely what many Christians believe, so yes, I can imagine this. But I can't stop wondering where this god came from. Who cares/why does that matter.There are more important elements to consider.
If god stopped existing would you stop existing?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 9:48 am
(October 30, 2021 at 9:16 am)brewer Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 8:23 am)Ahriman Wrote: Who cares/why does that matter.There are more important elements to consider.
If god stopped existing would you stop existing? How would I know that?
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 9:56 am
(October 29, 2021 at 11:30 am)Ahriman Wrote: (October 29, 2021 at 11:22 am)Angrboda Wrote: What is it that makes something, like humans, more or less important? More or less important than what?
Also, what evidence or justification do you have for believing we were created by a god? Or is it just another thing you believe for no good reason? Humans are actually the "most important" living things on the planet, but that's not saying much.
Beings as complex as humans don't just come into existence for no reason at all.
based on what?
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:06 am
(October 30, 2021 at 9:48 am)Ahriman Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 9:16 am)brewer Wrote: If god stopped existing would you stop existing? How would I know that?
How do you know god hasn't stopped existing?
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:15 am
(October 30, 2021 at 10:06 am)brewer Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 9:48 am)Ahriman Wrote: How would I know that?
How do you know god hasn't stopped existing? Well I guess I don't know that. But it wouldn't change anything anyway.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:18 am
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There we go, the articles of belief you hold that wouldn't change whether a god existed or didn't, or with respect to any other fact, really.
What are those? That would be you talking about meaning as you see it..which, even according to you, has nothing to do with gods.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:18 am
(October 30, 2021 at 9:56 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (October 29, 2021 at 11:30 am)Ahriman Wrote: Humans are actually the "most important" living things on the planet, but that's not saying much.
Beings as complex as humans don't just come into existence for no reason at all.
based on what? Just my own opinion.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:20 am
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You have opinions i have opinions we all have opinions. What are the important things that you believe would not be changed regardless of whether a god existed or didn't, as you just explained to us? What's in that set? IIRC you offered enjoyment, that there was meaning in the enjoyment found in life. Is it alone in the set, or is there more?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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