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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:23 am
(October 30, 2021 at 10:18 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: There we go, the articles of belief you hold that wouldn't change whether a god existed or didn't, or with respect to any other fact, really.
What are those? That would be you talking about meaning as you see it..which, even according to you, has nothing to do with gods. Well it's not like we can know if God exists or not. I just live as if God does exist.
What would you expect me to do if I found out God did not exist, as a matter of absolute fact? Start frothing at the mouth and making strange noises?
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:25 am
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You don't know, other people know all sorts of things you don't...and you know that. Who cares, though, just as you told us? It's not like it would matter if a god existed or didn't.
What other things beside enjoyment do you think belongs to the set of, or pertains to the set of, life's meaning?
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:28 am
Well everyone gets what they deserve, in some form or another.......so I suppose "justice" would be part of life's meaning.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 10:30 am
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Some people might doubt that everyone does, in fact, get what they deserve. That certainly doesn't seem to be true with reference to life. In that context, does observed injustice harm meaning or somehow run afoul of satisfactory meaning? What do you do, to be a part of this relationship with justice which forms the basis (or part of the basis) for your meaning?
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 11:44 am
Those who live righteously will be rewarded in the next life, as well as in the heavenly realms. Those who do not live righteously, will find themselves living a less-than-ideal life next go around, and they will be consigned to the hellish realms. But even Hell isn't bad, although Heaven is much better. I live righteously, so I know my next life will be even better than my current life. That's justice.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 12:05 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 11:44 am)Ahriman Wrote: Those who live righteously will be rewarded in the next life, as well as in the heavenly realms. Those who do not live righteously, will find themselves living a less-than-ideal life next go around, and they will be consigned to the hellish realms. But even Hell isn't bad, although Heaven is much better. I live righteously, so I know my next life will be even better than my current life. That's justice.
Pushing afterlife drivel is the antithesis of living righteously.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 12:08 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 12:05 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 11:44 am)Ahriman Wrote: Those who live righteously will be rewarded in the next life, as well as in the heavenly realms. Those who do not live righteously, will find themselves living a less-than-ideal life next go around, and they will be consigned to the hellish realms. But even Hell isn't bad, although Heaven is much better. I live righteously, so I know my next life will be even better than my current life. That's justice.
Pushing afterlife drivel is the antithesis of living righteously. How do you figure?
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 1:10 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 11:44 am)Ahriman Wrote: Those who live righteously will be rewarded in the next life, as well as in the heavenly realms. Those who do not live righteously, will find themselves living a less-than-ideal life next go around, and they will be consigned to the hellish realms. But even Hell isn't bad, although Heaven is much better. I live righteously, so I know my next life will be even better than my current life. That's justice.
Habitual lying is part of living righteously?
I suppose if you make up the rules as you go along you can create whatever fantasy you want.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 3:23 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 10:23 am)Ahriman Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 10:18 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: There we go, the articles of belief you hold that wouldn't change whether a god existed or didn't, or with respect to any other fact, really.
What are those? That would be you talking about meaning as you see it..which, even according to you, has nothing to do with gods. Well it's not like we can know if God exists or not. I just live as if God does exist.
What would you expect me to do if I found out God did not exist, as a matter of absolute fact? Start frothing at the mouth and making strange noises?
So it's not that god(s) matters, only the magic belief?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Atheism and the meaning of life - what drives you?
October 30, 2021 at 3:53 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 3:23 pm)brewer Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 10:23 am)Ahriman Wrote: Well it's not like we can know if God exists or not. I just live as if God does exist.
What would you expect me to do if I found out God did not exist, as a matter of absolute fact? Start frothing at the mouth and making strange noises?
So it's not that god(s) matters, only the magic belief? Well yeah. What else were you thinking?
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