(November 16, 2021 at 10:31 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: A lot of people on this thread have called Rittenhouse a white supremisist. Could anyone please present the evidence for this opinion? Not saying he is not, but it has not been presented in the trial. Maybe I missed it.

There is that photo of R giving the white power sign with some proud boys.

 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ritten...ys-photos/

I don't make a lot of that, though. He is a confused kid, responding to praise from a right wing organization, not a member of that of any other WS organization, so far as I know. 

The answer to your question may depend on how you define "White supremacist." Doesn't look like he had much sympathy for black lives matter; but it's not clear that he has committed himself to any movement explicitly working for that goal.

Might have something to do with the fact that every bit of his actions were predicate on white supremacist propaganda. Or that he palled around with white supremacists on bail. Or, maybe, it's because his legal defense was crowdsourced by white supremacists. Then again, it could be due to having enthusiastically become the white supremacist cause celebre.

Could be anything, really.

Or maybe this is another one of those through the looking glass things...like the notion that the judge isn't sitting on the scales, where we have to entertain absurd bullshit because people have an axe to grind against the very simple and very obvious. Bet if we drew a venn diagram we'd find some kind of relationship to white supremacy there, too. You know. Maybe. The kid could tattoo a swas on his forehead and there would still be a chorus of skeptics™ jaq-ing off, deeply concerned. Maybe he just really liked that ben affleck daredevil movie...amiright?

(November 16, 2021 at 10:44 am)dill Wrote:

(November 16, 2021 at 10:31 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: A lot of people on this thread have called Rittenhouse a white supremisist. Could anyone please present the evidence for this opinion? Not saying he is not, but it has not been presented in the trial. Maybe I missed it.

There is that photo of R giving the white power sign with some proud boys.

 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ritten...ys-photos/

I don't make a lot of that, though. He is a confused kid, responding to praise from a right wing organization, not a member of that of any other WS organization, so far as I know. 

The answer to your question may depend on how you define "White supremacist." Doesn't look like he had much sympathy for black lives matter; but it's not clear that he has committed himself to any movement explicitly working for that goal.

When people say white supremisist, I immediately think of David Duke and the neo-Nazis that marched in Skokie way back when. Those types are not shy about their beliefs.

Seems like volunteering to carry a rifle and patrol The Other's streets isn't all that shy. I guess we really shouldn't mistake actions like that for commitment. It's not like he's a child soldier in race war or anything.

(November 16, 2021 at 10:44 am)dill Wrote:

(November 16, 2021 at 10:31 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: A lot of people on this thread have called Rittenhouse a white supremisist. Could anyone please present the evidence for this opinion? Not saying he is not, but it has not been presented in the trial. Maybe I missed it.

There is that photo of R giving the white power sign with some proud boys.

 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ritten...ys-photos/

I don't make a lot of that, though. He is a confused kid, responding to praise from a right wing organization, not a member of that of any other WS organization, so far as I know. 

The answer to your question may depend on how you define "White supremacist." Doesn't look like he had much sympathy for black lives matter; but it's not clear that he has committed himself to any movement explicitly working for that goal.

I hope we aren't going to add the confused kid defense to the affluenza defense so that people under 18 can get away with whatever they want.

(November 16, 2021 at 11:04 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Seems like volunteering to carry a rifle and patrol The Other's streets isn't all that shy. I guess we really shouldn't mistake actions like that for commitment. It's not like he's a child soldier in race war or anything.

LOL...all the alleged victims were white. Seems like if this was a "race war" there might be some minorities involved.

Quote:LOL...all the alleged victims were white. Seems like if this was a "race war" there might be some minorities involved.

You seem to suffer under the delusion that White Nationalists make any distinction between whites who protest with black people and black people themselves. In reality, they hold "race traitors" in just as much if not more contempt

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Quote:When people say white supremisist, I immediately think of David Duke and the neo-Nazis that marched in Skokie way back when. Those types are not shy about their beliefs.

Then your view is far too narrow

Bingo wheel drum? No seriously, when the former guy talks about S hole countries, I think involving a bingo wheel drum in a court case is clown car crap.

(November 16, 2021 at 11:27 am)Brian37 Wrote: Bingo wheel drum? No seriously, when the former guy talks about S hole countries, I think involving a bingo wheel drum in a court case is clown car crap.

It’s been used for a very, very long time. It largely removes the human element in jury selection, thus reducing the chances for a biased jury.

Boru

(November 16, 2021 at 10:44 am)dill Wrote:

(November 16, 2021 at 10:31 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: A lot of people on this thread have called Rittenhouse a white supremisist. Could anyone please present the evidence for this opinion? Not saying he is not, but it has not been presented in the trial. Maybe I missed it.

There is that photo of R giving the white power sign with some proud boys.

 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ritten...ys-photos/

I don't make a lot of that, though. He is a confused kid, responding to praise from a right wing organization, not a member of that of any other WS organization, so far as I know. 

The answer to your question may depend on how you define "White supremacist." Doesn't look like he had much sympathy for black lives matter; but it's not clear that he has committed himself to any movement explicitly working for that goal.

You don’t have to join a club to be a racist.

Boru